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    Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    ...What are the moments that made you feel like, as a Reds fan, you wanted to crawl under a rock. Here are a couple that come to mind (top-of-my-head stuff)...in no particular order.

    Marge. Overall I think she was great. A true fan. But she embarrassed us a few times (recylcing the flowers when the ump died, some of the stuff that came out of her mouth, and just her overall appearance--remember when she was on the cover of SI with that smoking cig? Yikes!).

    Our offense (specifically Reggie Sanders and Ron Gant) against the Braves pitching in the 1995 NLCS. Whiff-city.

    Jim Bowden makes my list. Dude had no couth. The way he fired Tony Perez, the way he treated Jeff Shaw, the leather pants...there are more, I'll just leave it at that.

    Pete Rose...hate to say it...but it was pretty embarrassing when he finally came clean. I defended the guy. I still love him as a player but when he finally fessed up...embarrassing.

    I know I'll come up with some more as I think further.

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    4 straight losing seasons
    john allen
    2005 pitching staff
    eric milton bust
    our farm system


    need i say more

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    1. Marge Schott- Where do I begin? I was fortunate enough to be able to eat the pre-game spread in the press box a couple of times during her era, and the sight of her picking over all the food on the buffet with her bare hands. (after just petting Schottzie) will stay with me forever.

    2. Dick Wagner- How could a guy who worked with Bob Howsam not have absorbed at least a little baseball acumen by osmosis?

    3. The Firing of Tony Perez- The Big Dog deserved so much better.

    4 (tie). Pete Rose As Player-Manager inserting his used up carcass into the lineup regularly while younger, better options wasted away on the bench.

    4 (tie). Pete Rose Jr's Big League Stint- Because management thought we fans were stupid enough that we'd get excited about it.

    5. The 1961 World Series- Most of you don't remember it, but trust me, the Yankees pretty much undressed us.

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Okay I have a personal most embarrassing moment.

    I think I was 14. I luuuuved Davey Concepcion. Kind of like Dunn now.

    So my dad and I were at a game. Blue seats behind the Reds dugout. I was in heaven.

    The Reds take the field to start the game. They announce Davey. My Davey. He starts to run towards SS and fell. Tripped over, well, over his own two feet.

    I was crushed. Obviously I still haven't gotten over it.

    I know that's not what you meant, but oh well.
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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas.

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Quote Originally Posted by Centralchamps05
    Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas.
    Yes, that has to be number one, no doubt, and

    2. This club's love for over-the-hill or previously injured pitchers. Over the past ten years, you can count the number of times on one hand that we have signed a proven winner. Heck, I can onlly think of one--Eric Milton and we all know how that panned out.

    3. The Reds' performance in both the 1961 and 1970 World Series games. Earlier the 61 series was touched upon. In 1970, Brooks Robinson was a one-man wrecking crew.

    4. The 2000-2005 seasons as a whole. After acquiring Griffey, who would have believed that our pitching would deteriorate to the point that even scoring the most runs in the league wouldn't give us winning seasons? For the record, this period's record was 447-525-2, a .459 winning percentage.
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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

    4. The 2000-2005 seasons as a whole. After acquiring Griffey, who would have believed that our pitching would deteriorate to the point that even scoring the most runs in the league wouldn't give us winning seasons? For the record, this period's record was 447-525-2, a .459 winning percentage.

    I too remember 1982-1988 and in terms of embarrassing, it's got nothing on 2000-2005(6); maybe I've got a more profound knowledge of incompetence now than I did then, but this is the freakin' pits. Everything's a mess--and it's so blatantly obvious to everyone within and without Cincinnati except ownership/management. That's what's so embarrassing.

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    The "Mothers Day Meltdown" a few years back at Cinergy was probably one of my top 2 or 3 "most embarrasing fan moments" of all time...

    ...right up there with the Bucs blowing a 20 point lead to the Colts in under 5 minutes on Monday Night Football.
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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    1. Owner going bankrupt and Bank holding the papers.

    2. Owner conspiring with Giants owner to pass Mathewson through Reds system.

    3. Marge

    4. Dick Wagners tenure

    5. Pete's career since 1989

    Honorable Mention

    Signing Hal Chase

    Refusing to participate in Free agency

    Perez hire/fire

    Robinson trade

    Changing name to redlegs

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    The 9th inning blowup this last year is pretty high on the list if we're talking individual game moments.

    Getting blown out by the brewers in 1999 when they could have clinched the wild card.

    The treatment of Ken Griffey, Jr. by the media and a large contingent of fans his first few years in Cincy.

    Hiring Dan O'Brien

    Not being willing to pony up $200k to get Chuck Finley when the team was in contention.

    This one is probably #1 on my list - The 2003 fire sale where Allen chose to get cash in return as opposed to better players.
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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Dibble did some silly things.

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    I too remember 1982-1988 and in terms of embarrassing, it's got nothing on 2000-2005(6); maybe I've got a more profound knowledge of incompetence now than I did then, but this is the freakin' pits. Everything's a mess--and it's so blatantly obvious to everyone within and without Cincinnati except ownership/management. That's what's so embarrassing.
    Not even close. From 82-88, the Reds woln 557 games and lost 575 or a .492 winning percentage. They even had winning seasons from 85-88, with 1985 being 89-72!

    No, hands down, this last six years has been the absolute worst in modern Reds history.
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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan
    No, hands down, this last six years has been the absolute worst in modern Reds history.
    If modern is post 1900 nothing tops the Depression era Reds

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    For a single, on-the-field moment, I think back to a game in Wrigley Field early in the 1993 season, when a horrific reserve outfielder (whose name escapes me right now; he was likely one of Bowden's five-tool players) fell down as a liner to center went over his head, then remained on the ground, on his back, as runners circled the bases.

    As for off-the-field moments, does anyone remember those grim times in the 1970s when Johnny Bench would show up on a talk or variety show and be called upon to sing, usually warbling a nightmarish version of the late Jim Croce's "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown"?

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    Re: Most embarrassing Reds moments...

    Embarrassing, but funny...when Tim Layana sitting in the bullpen stood up to field a ground ball with his hat and tossed it into the stands.

    Again, I know this isn't what you meant, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
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