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    Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    I mean, no one would love to wander around the Sarasota complex and see Foster, Sabo, Soto, Browning et al. on the grounds. But wasn't there a "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem not too long ago in the Reds coaching? Are these guys going to be coaching the players or are they a presence of tradition. I'm not clear on that, and I'm not so sure the "old icons" are either. Maybe I'm over-reacting and Narron hass all this in check...
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Hopefully, those guys will spend more time meeting and greeting the Reds fans at ST than providing any real instruction. In any case, it will be a good test of Narron's managerial skills (in the business sense rather than the baseball sense) to use the icons effectively, and to make sure their messages are consistent with the club's training philosophies for each position/skill.

    AFAIK, Bench has gone to ST to work with the catchers every year since he retired. I've never heard of that being a problem.

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted

    AFAIK, Bench has gone to ST to work with the catchers every year since he retired. I've never heard of that being a problem.
    Yeah, but look how well that's turned out:

    Dann Bilardello
    Brad Gulden
    Dave Van Gorder
    Alex Trevino
    Bo Diaz
    Sal Butera
    Terry McGriff
    Lloyd McClendon
    Jeff Reed
    Joe Oliver
    Glenn Sutko
    Donnie Scott
    Troy Afenir
    Dan Wilson
    Rick Wrona
    Brian Dorsett
    Eddie Taubensee
    Benito Santiago
    Damon Berryhill
    Brook Fordyce
    Brian Johnson
    Jason LaRue
    Kelly Stinnett
    Corky Miller
    Dane Sardinha
    Javier Valentin
    Miguel Perez


    There's a lot of all-stars and hall of famers on that list.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan
    Yeah, but look how well that's turned out:

    Dann Bilardello
    Brad Gulden
    Dave Van Gorder
    Alex Trevino
    Bo Diaz
    Sal Butera
    Terry McGriff
    Lloyd McClendon
    Jeff Reed
    Joe Oliver
    Glenn Sutko
    Donnie Scott
    Troy Afenir
    Dan Wilson
    Rick Wrona
    Brian Dorsett
    Eddie Taubensee
    Benito Santiago
    Damon Berryhill
    Brook Fordyce
    Brian Johnson
    Jason LaRue
    Kelly Stinnett
    Corky Miller
    Dane Sardinha
    Javier Valentin
    Miguel Perez


    There's a lot of all-stars and hall of famers on that list.
    Bench is not responsible for the Dan Wilson trade.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan
    Yeah, but look how well that's turned out:

    Dann Bilardello
    Brad Gulden
    Dave Van Gorder
    Alex Trevino
    Bo Diaz
    Sal Butera
    Terry McGriff
    Lloyd McClendon
    Jeff Reed
    Joe Oliver
    Glenn Sutko
    Donnie Scott
    Troy Afenir
    Dan Wilson
    Rick Wrona
    Brian Dorsett
    Eddie Taubensee
    Benito Santiago
    Damon Berryhill
    Brook Fordyce
    Brian Johnson
    Jason LaRue
    Kelly Stinnett
    Corky Miller
    Dane Sardinha
    Javier Valentin
    Miguel Perez


    There's a lot of all-stars and hall of famers on that list.
    Who said All-Stars? All we needed was for them to be productive. Last I checked, Joe Oliver was a big part of us having a World Series ring, Eddie Taubensee helped us win a division title, and LaRue helped us win 96 games and play in a one game playoff. And Benito Santiago has had a pretty good career, helping the Reds to some solid season and having a NL championship ring. You don't have to have a player be a Hall-of-Fame player because he was taught by one.

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket_Fuel
    Who said All-Stars? All we needed was for them to be productive. Last I checked, Joe Oliver was a big part of us having a World Series ring, Eddie Taubensee helped us win a division title, and LaRue helped us win 96 games and play in a one game playoff. And Benito Santiago has had a pretty good career, helping the Reds to some solid season and having a NL championship ring. You don't have to have a player be a Hall-of-Fame player because he was taught by one.
    I'm not saying that they all stunk Rocket_Fuel, I like a lot of guys on that list. My post was a bit facetious, hence the smilie.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Too many cooks > too few cooks. Besides, it's not like a gourmet meal is at stake here...

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Yeah Wheel, I am. If we get back to everybody and his brother tinkering with Dunn at the plate again, especially when he is learning a newish position, it could be a disaster. :thumbdown



    But just let me add, I would be happy to tinker with Dunn anytime, anywhere.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Adam Dunn never failed on his own. It's part of his mythology.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    Adam Dunn never failed on his own. It's part of his mythology.
    Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into Tartarus.

    During the war of the TITANS, Adam Dunn stormed Olympus and threatened the Reds Brass. And as punishment for this war crime, BOONE/MILEY/NARRON (a secret cabal of light hitting catchers) sentenced him to hold up the Reds and bear their weight on his shoulders forever.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Zeus exiled the Titans who had fought against him into Tartarus.

    During the war of the TITANS, Adam Dunn stormed Olympus and threatened the Reds Brass. And as punishment for this war crime, BOONE/MILEY/NARRON (a secret cabal of light hitting catchers) sentenced him to hold up the Reds and bear their weight on his shoulders forever.
    Exactly!
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    "I mean, no one would love to wander around the Sarasota complex and see Foster, Sabo, Soto, Browning et al. on the grounds. But wasn't there a "too many cooks in the kitchen" problem not too long ago in the Reds coaching? Are these guys going to be coaching the players or are they a presence of tradition. I'm not clear on that, and I'm not so sure the "old icons" are either. Maybe I'm over-reacting and Narron hass all this in check..."
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    Personally I'd love to see the old icons in Sarasota as it would help to make the arguably worst spring training facility in Florida a little more interesting.

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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    I think it's just marketing. Reds Tradition.

    Doesn't bother me at all.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    All of these Guys except for Soto, have one thing in common...World Series Rings. They need to be there. They know how and what it takes to win! Everyone of them have something to offer. It's a great idea.
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    Re: Is anyone a tad worried about all these "old icons" at Spring Training?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    I think it's just marketing. Reds Tradition.
    Exactly. Soto and Browning are there to work with the pitchers, but Bench, Foster, Griffey Sr., and the other old-timers are there to awe the kids and teach them what it means to be a member of the Cincinnati Freakin Reds.

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