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    If Kearns is dealt...

    does a potential defensive alignment of:

    1B Dunn
    2B Aurillia
    SS Lopez
    3B Encarnacion
    LF Womack
    CF Griffey (or Pena)
    RF Pena (or Griffey)
    C LaRue

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    That alignment doesnt scare me defensively, but I would much rather see Freel or Denorfia in one of the corner OF spots than Womack.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat
    does a potential defensive alignment of:

    1B Dunn
    2B Aurillia
    SS Lopez
    3B Encarnacion
    LF Womack
    CF Griffey (or Pena)
    RF Pena (or Griffey)
    C LaRue

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    My lineup, minus Kearns, would be:

    2B - Freel
    SS - Lopez
    1B - Dunn
    LF - Jr.
    RF - Pena
    3B - Encarnacion
    C - Larue
    CF - Denorfia

    It's a little right-handed at the bottom, I figure it would be one of the higher scoring units in the NL.
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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    m2, just curious as to why you would move Griffey to a corner in favor of Denorfia?

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt
    m2, just curious as to why you would move Griffey to a corner in favor of Denorfia?
    Because Griffey has the range of a Sherman Tank.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    It might make an injury more likely though. He's said before it's a lot harder to play the corners, where you have to make sudden stops at the wall instead of running it out in center.
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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Because Griffey has the range of a Sherman Tank.
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    That's pretty good range for a 35-year old outfielder.
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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    I really don't think Griffey is moving to the COF.

    My lineup would be:
    Platoon Freel and Deno in LF

    When Freel plays:
    LF Freel
    SS-FeLo
    CF- Jr.
    1B-Dunn
    RF-WMP
    C- LaRue
    2B- RA
    3B-EE

    When Denorfia plays:
    SS- FeLo
    2b- RA
    CF- Griffey
    1B-Dunn
    RF-WMP
    C-LaRue
    3B-EE
    LF- Denorfia

    And you know when somebody needs a day off, Freel will be in there playing whatever position he has to. The scary thing is, we are eventually going to see a lineup with both RA and Womack in it. Yikes.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    I think there's a big difference between "our lineups" and the ones the reds are likely to use.....which right now looks like
    RF Kearns
    CF Junior
    LF Pena
    1 Dunn
    2 Womack
    3 Rich A.
    SS Lopez
    C LaRue

    Move a corner outfielder and all they'll do is slide Freel into that slot.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs
    I think there's a big difference between "our lineups" and the ones the reds are likely to use.....which right now looks like
    RF Kearns
    CF Junior
    LF Pena
    1 Dunn
    2 Womack
    3 Rich A.
    SS Lopez
    C LaRue

    Move a corner outfielder and all they'll do is slide Freel into that slot.
    I agree with that. It is sad, but I think EE will be starting the year in AAA. Not that I agree with doing that.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt
    m2, just curious as to why you would move Griffey to a corner in favor of Denorfia?
    What WOY said for the most part. Jr.'s the worst defensive CF in the game due to lack of range. If the Reds want to fix the OF defense then Jr.'s got to shift over.

    Even if Denorfia's not in the picture, say Kearns isn't dealt, I still wouldn't play Jr. in CF. Pena's been better CF than Jr. two years running and that gap will only get wider as Pena gains experience and Jr. ages. I actually think Jr. would play the corners better than Wily Mo (who seemingly can't read the ball unless he's in CF) so you'd be looking at a win-win by flipping their positions.

    reds44, why would you platoon two RH hitters? Plus, Freel had a .419 OB vs. southpaws last season, so I'd want that up top in my lineup.
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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    What WOY said for the most part. Jr.'s the worst defensive CF in the game due to lack of range. If the Reds want to fix the OF defense then Jr.'s got to shift over.

    Even if Denorfia's not in the picture, say Kearns isn't dealt, I still wouldn't play Jr. in CF. Pena's been better CF than Jr. two years running and that gap will only get wider as Pena gains experience and Jr. ages. I actually think Jr. would play the corners better than Wily Mo (who seemingly can't read the ball unless he's in CF) so you'd be looking at a win-win by flipping their positions.

    reds44, why would you platoon two RH hitters? Plus, Freel had a .419 OB vs. southpaws last season, so I'd want that up top in my lineup.
    Yeah I was thinking about that. It isn't so much of a "platoon" as it is Freel playing some other positions when other players aren't in the lineup that day.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    M2, I was just wondering if your reasoning was more "injury" talk or range talk. Mainly because Griffey has been getting hurt in the transition of going as fast as he can, to slowing down, where he would do a lot more of the playing a corner position than in CF.

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    Re: If Kearns is dealt...

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs
    I think there's a big difference between "our lineups" and the ones the reds are likely to use.....which right now looks like
    RF Kearns
    CF Junior
    LF Pena
    1 Dunn
    2 Womack
    3 Rich A.
    SS Lopez
    C LaRue

    Move a corner outfielder and all they'll do is slide Freel into that slot.
    You're most likely right (unless they hire a GM like Antonetti or DePodesta who puts up a prohibition on playing Aurilia and Womack). My experience on this board is that posters here generally come up with better ideas than what we've seen on the field in recent years. Hopefully Dunn somewhere in the 2-3-4 slots is a given, that would be a start. I'd really like to see Freel up top on a daily basis as well. The offense really pops when he's the leadoff hitter.
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