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    Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Yeah, I convulsively shivered when I typed it, but I thought it might be worth musing on.

    Milton does occasionally flash ability. Some starts he's on, more often he's not. When he's on, his fastball is down in the zone with some life an accuracy.

    Maybe, due to his knee, he's only got 15 pitches in him on a given night. Maybe if you let him rear back and just fire away you'd be able to wring some value out of the guy. No, I'm not convinced it'll work either.

    But what do the Reds have to lose? It's not like there's a Plan A for the closer role at the moment. If you try Milton there in ST and he flops then you've lost nothing. The club should already know that it's asking for a beatdown if he starts. Might as well reach into the hat and try to pull a rabbit from it.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Hmmmmmm......it did seem that he pitched his worse after he got through the order once.......not sure it is such a crazy idea M2.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Milton for one inning would be better than Milton for 6.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    He does have a lot of experience pitching from a stretch.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    He does have a lot of experience pitching from a stretch.
    I do like M2's idea though.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    He does have a lot of experience pitching from a stretch.
    GREAT! yeah.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    He does have a lot of experience pitching from a stretch.
    Problem is he K's less guys from the stretch. For his career it's 7.2 to 5.6 from windup to stretch. Last year it was 6/5.8

    His rate last year 5.94 was his career worst and 1.27 less than the year before, that rate represents exactly 27 less K's over his whole season.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Problem is he K's less guys from the stretch. For his career it's 7.2 to 5.6 from windup to stretch. Last year it was 6/5.8

    His rate last year 5.94 was his career worst and 1.27 less than the year before, that rate represents exactly 27 less K's over his whole season.
    Perhaps that's dependent upon when the "stretch" becomes necessary? Maybe if he hasn't already thrown X number of pitches before pitching in the stretch becomes necessary, he might be more productive?

    I'm not trying to disagree with you, more like trying to stir up the pot.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    Perhaps that's dependent upon when the "stretch" becomes necessary? Maybe if he hasn't already thrown X number of pitches before pitching in the stretch becomes necessary, he might be more productive?

    I'm not trying to disagree with you, more like trying to stir up the pot.
    Actually it's the pressure the stretch puts on his bad knee that causes the problem, so if said knee isn't sore from the get-go then maybe it won't effect him.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Problem is he K's less guys from the stretch. For his career it's 7.2 to 5.6 from windup to stretch. Last year it was 6/5.8

    His rate last year 5.94 was his career worst and 1.27 less than the year before, that rate represents exactly 27 less K's over his whole season.

    Yeah, I was just being a smartass.

    I've noticed that he sees a lot of baserunners when he pitches. Although, he does avoid that situation fairly often too, as many hitters he faces don't actually stop at a base until they reach home again.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Problem is he K's less guys from the stretch. For his career it's 7.2 to 5.6 from windup to stretch. Last year it was 6/5.8

    His rate last year 5.94 was his career worst and 1.27 less than the year before, that rate represents exactly 27 less K's over his whole season.
    My solution to that is to stop pitching out of the stretch. He probably would have the luxury of ignoring a single baserunner in a lot of closing situations.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Steve: Well Marty, here we are in the bottom of the ninth, Reds lead by a run but there are two runners on with no one out.

    Marty: Yeah, but Jerry knows what he's doing. He's bringing in the savey left-hander, Eric Milton to face left-handed hitting Alito Smallball.

    Steve: Right Marty. A good move. Alito is known for his fine glove but the coaches still have to tell him to turn the label up. Like most of the shortstops from the Dominican, he's a free swinger. As they say, ya' can't walk off the island. Of course, with his 2 doubles and a sac fly last year in 563 at bats, he can be dangerous at times.

    Marty: Milton's the right choice here Steve. His 83 mile per hour fastball and 82 mile per hour changeup should take the bat right out of Alito's hands because Milton is one of those crafty veterans that know how to win. Just like the tomato garden, ya' can't find that kind of quality in just any corner grocery store. Where, oh where, would the Reds be now if Dan O'Brien hadn't had the vision to sign Eric Milton!?!

    Marty: Here's the pitch. Alito swings and sends a popup towards second base while hitting himself in the head with the back swing.....the ball's got a little carry on it. Dunn and Freel droping back into the outfield....Kearns drifting back.....the bull pen guys are on their feet....the crowd is drifting back....#$%#$%!%!!! (Dead Air)

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Is that the kind of "creative thinking" we keep getting promised? Who knows, it could work.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Why not? He's already proved he's an opener.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Not a bad idea. My guess is that Milton would never go for it, and pitchers who are paid that much seem to have leverage. It took many more months than remain before the 2006 season starts for Danny Graves to get his mind around the opposite switch.

    It may be too much of a leap for ownership to swallow, having the closer be the highest paid pitcher. That's the kind of outside-the-box thinking that probably leads to snickering from the other side of the banquet table at owners' meetings.

    Although the snickers might be easier to accept than the offers of sympathy for having such an expensive and historically bad starter.


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