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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by GADawg
    anyone know if Kevin Brown is anywhere near anything that could be considered healthy? It doesn't seem as if Brown has alot of suitors and he'd be a pure bulldog coming out of the pen...if the price was right...IMO.
    I gotta tell ya, I love that idea. I don't know if Brown would be ammendable to it, but he might be better suited to relief at this stage in his career. He certainly isn't in high demand, so he'd probably work cheap. If he is healthy, I'd say give it a go.

    Nice thinking!

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    I did get to speak to Kullman tonight about this subject. He told me someone already e-mailed him about that last night. Which one of you was it? Anyway he seemed open to the idea but needed a better reason than using him for an inning is better than using him for several innings. He said he would like to see him as a mopup man.

    I also asked him about moving Jr. to LF and using WMP in CF. He said it's been discussed. He said Bench talked to Kullman about it and said when he played 1st it wasn't an easy gig since he had to move around a lot with lots of starts and stops. They feel that whatever runs Jr. gives up in CF is offset by his presence in the lineup.

    He's also still very high on the 4 man rotation. He's done a lot of research on pitching.
    thanks for that.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Thanks Chip

    Can you imagine the same conversation with Dan O?
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    by ChipR: "He said he would like to see him as a mopup man."

    Kullman actually said that!?

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by remdog
    by ChipR: "He said he would like to see him as a mopup man."

    Kullman actually said that!?

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    Yep. Pretty candid, no?
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Hmmmm.....
    Kullman just took a step up in the GM race in my book.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by remdog
    by ChipR: "He said he would like to see him as a mopup man."

    Kullman actually said that!?

    Rem

    So did FCB.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Anybody think Eric Milton might be Comeback Player of the Year for 2006?

    What happens if the sinkerball he has been working on is a success? He is a professional athlete. You would think there would be a little thing called pride which would fuel the fire to show everyone that he isn't toast.

    Milton has hit rock bottom. There is only one way to go.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty

    Milton has hit rock bottom. There is only one way to go.

    If the source of his problems is that knee, he's got plenty more room to fall.

    What a brilliant freakin' idea it was to bring him here and try to teach him a sinkerball at this stage in his career.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792

    Outside of 2000, Ryan Dempster was absolutely terrible as a starting pitcher, including his brief stint right here in Cincinnati. The Cubs grab him in 2004, test him out of the bullpen and he doesn't pitch poorly. In 2005 they let him go the entire season out of the pen and he turns in a 136 ERA+, all the while increasing his K rate and decreasing his HR rate. No, I wouldn't consider Dempster great out of the bullpen, but he suddenly had some positive value.
    Dempster was an all star atarter who suddendly failed as a starter (likely) due to injuries (though it may not have been known at the time).

    He then got healthy. That probably has as much to due with his recent success as the change to starting.

    Hey, no one really knows whether or not if Milton could make it as a reliever. But there's nothing in his resume to think that the problems he's having starting would disappear if he's a closer.

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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Big credit to Kullman for already wanting him out of the rotation.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Big credit to Kullman for already wanting him out of the rotation.

    Yep.

    We ran him out there last year when he stunk up the joint to justify DanO's decision. Nobody's ass to cover now.

    If he doesn't get it together, mop up sounds about right, then maybe closer if he shows he can get people out.

    Otherwise, he's just a higher priced Jimmy Haynes.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Or..if the owner has the guts, outright release and just eat the cash.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Or..if the owner has the guts, outright release and just eat the cash.
    As a "mopup" guy, if he improves slightly back to a little over his career norms, he's not too awful -- certainly better than anything the Reds can trot up from AAA. I'd rather get him to eat innings in blowouts than have him sitting at home watching his giant big screen on my nickel.

    The key is that the new GM isn't just penciling 1 loss per week into the rotation by throwing him out there regardless. That, I likes a lot.
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    Re: Random idea - make Milton the closer

    I thought part of Milton's problems last year was his performance in his first inning of work. I don't know that giving him 60-70 first innings as a closer as opposed to 30-35 as a starter is a recipe for improvement.


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