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    Re: Reds interviewed Wilder

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc. Scott
    You know, I hate to head down this path, but Wilder is African-American. Since the Reds were under an obligation to interview a minority and Leland Maddox had to delay his interview because he had the flu, it's very possible that Castellini already knows who he wants and he's just doing due diligence.

    No, I don't necessarily want to start a big discussion about this sort of thing, but it's one scenario to explain the way Wilder's candidacy wasn't really publicized.
    You can't NOT bring this up. It's always going to be the suspicion, due to our society's racial context. However, considering the Reds are going to interview Maddox, and made a good faith effort to interview Mike Hill, I suspect that the Reds are truly looking for the candidate they think will be best for the team, rather than just interviewing people for show.
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    Re: Reds interviewed Wilder

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc. Scott
    You know, I hate to head down this path, but Wilder is African-American. Since the Reds were under an obligation to interview a minority and Leland Maddox had to delay his interview because he had the flu, it's very possible that Castellini already knows who he wants and he's just doing due diligence.

    No, I don't necessarily want to start a big discussion about this sort of thing, but it's one scenario to explain the way Wilder's candidacy wasn't really publicized.
    So Doc, who do you think it is?
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    Re: Reds interviewed Wilder

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    You can't NOT bring this up. It's always going to be the suspicion, due to our society's racial context. However, considering the Reds are going to interview Maddox, and made a good faith effort to interview Mike Hill, I suspect that the Reds are truly looking for the candidate they think will be best for the team, rather than just interviewing people for show.
    I hope so and I hope Maddox's interview still happens.

    Krusty, if you ask me, it's either Frank Wren or John Mozeliak. Of course, those are the two that I'm also sort of pulling for (new blood), but I do think it will be one of them.

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    Re: Reds interviewed Wilder

    The Reds.com Story

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=cin

    Nothing new or earth shattering in that story.

    I don't think has been brought up yet or not, but Wilder was Dean Taylor's right hand man in Milwaukee while Taylor was the GM.

    Also, Wilder was the Farm Director for the Cubs in the late 90's which oversaw the likes of Kerry Wood get throttled thru the system in just a few short years.

    I'm sure there is much more to his resume than that, but at first glance, I'm not a big fan of what I see.

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    Re: Reds interviewed Wilder

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    You can't NOT bring this up. It's always going to be the suspicion, due to our society's racial context. However, considering the Reds are going to interview Maddox, and made a good faith effort to interview Mike Hill, I suspect that the Reds are truly looking for the candidate they think will be best for the team, rather than just interviewing people for show.
    I don't question that the Reds are making a good faith effort to find the best fit for their team, but it raises a large question in my mind about the effectiveness of programs designed to encourage minority involvement in professional sports. The current system of minority interviewing requirements used by the NFL and MLB is silly at best and downright offensive to minority groups at worst. How demeaning do you think it is to a guy like Mike Singletary in the NFL to look at the list of names interviewed for a job and realize he's the "Rooney Rule" candidate, there just to allow a team to check a box off prior to making a hire?

    There's been progress in recent years with getting more minorities involved in sports coaching and management, but the fact of the matter is that the majority of the people who are doing the hiring in these situations are white male owners and white male general managers. In order for sports to take "the next step" on the path to diversity and gender equality (don't forget, as bad as professional sports are with the non-inclusion of minorities in the front office, they're 100 times worse with the inclusion of women in the front office) there will have to be more diverse faces in the rooms that make the decisions as opposed to chairs that the candidates are sitting in.
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