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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Ballast.

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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Do other teams worry about ballast as much as the Reds, and after 5 years of mud pies is it going to really hurt to try something that is slightly different than the last 5 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Do other teams worry about ballast as much as the Reds, and after 5 years of mud pies is it going to really hurt to try something that is slightly different than the last 5 years?
    No, but it's not going to help.

    And I'd submit both Joe Randa and Jon Vanderwal as exhibit A & B in the ballast continuity project. Dirtpile sifting. And not particularly good sifting.

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    And I'd submit both Joe Randa and Jon Vanderwal as exhibit A & B in the ballast continuity project. Dirtpile sifting. And not particularly good sifting.
    And I'll submit 2003 Freel and 2001 Brady Clark as positive sifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    And I'll submit 2003 Freel and 2001 Brady Clark as positive sifting.
    Sure. There is such as a thing as good sifting. I'm not saying that--I'm saying this is bad sifting--guy at the end of his string sifting, a la DanO.

    Are they looking to build a VFW Hall or make a bench?

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    Ohhh, this is a signing that I rly like. Good job. :dancingco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Sure. There is such as a thing as good sifting. I'm not saying that--I'm saying this is bad sifting--guy at the end of his string sifting, a la DanO.

    Are they looking to build a VFW Hall or make a bench?
    Well considering that the majority of the starters are under 30 then I don't see the big problem right now, in fact I'd say it's safe to say that most of the bench ballast being picked up over the past 5 years over the age of 35 has been more for other things aside from hitting.

    Womack, Aurilia, Griffey and now Hattenberg are the only Reds over the age of 32.. not really a VFW hall just yet.


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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    gets us a backup first basemen left handed bat and bench guy as was stated alerady good clubhouse guy good signing

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainmorgan07
    gets us a backup first basemen left handed bat and bench guy as was stated alerady good clubhouse guy good signing
    This team needed a backup firstbaseman like I need a mercury milkshake.

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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Hmm..Mercury
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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to get excited over signing a guy who was worth -3.6 above replacement level last season.
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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    I like Hatteberg as a PH and 1b backup more than Cruz and $750,000 isn't much to pay him.
    Last edited by Betterread; 02-12-2006 at 03:56 PM.

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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    This team needed a backup firstbaseman like I need a mercury milkshake.
    Really?

    I think a b/u 1st baseman this season isn't a bad idea, it ain't sexy and there ain't any blood to satisify the masses, but it's not as cut and dried as you paint it either.

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    Re: Hatteberg signed

    Gives him some flexibility to move one of the outfielders too, without having to worry about a quick fix at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Really?

    I think a b/u 1st baseman this season isn't a bad idea, it ain't sexy and there ain't any blood to satisify the masses, but it's not as cut and dried as you paint it either.
    This is a signing if viewed in isolation would seem to be a bleh move, but my first thought is that this move is anticipating some turnover in the outfield that will move the first baseman back to the outfield.
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