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    Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Very disappointing I was really rooting for her.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    I'm curious if the snowstorm in the Northeast corridor is going to drastically help NBC's ratings. I never have time to stay home and watch TV anymore, but there was no way I was going outside today.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    I'm curious if the snowstorm in the Northeast corridor is going to drastically help NBC's ratings. I never have time to stay home and watch TV anymore, but there was no way I was going outside today.
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    vaticanplum, iirc there was a wee bit of controversy over women's figure skating in 1994 with a few people insisting maybe one of the entrants didn't deserve to be there.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Great day for sledding.

    vaticanplum, iirc there was a wee bit of controversy over women's figure skating in 1994 with a few people insisting maybe one of the entrants didn't deserve to be there.
    Ok, full-fledged geekdom impending: there was some controversy over that team, but that was largely over the pairs competition -- many people felt that the teams that earned their spots at the National Championships (which is how the US Olympic figure skating team is determined) weren't the ones who deserved to go. But there wasn't much issue over the women's team. The Americans had two women's spots that year instead of three, due to Kerrigan's poor performance at the World Championships the year before (this is how the number of spots is determined). Kerrigan got whacked in the knee, Tonya Harding finished first and Kwan was second. So Harding got to go automatically, but the second spot was given to Kerrigan who could not compete at the Nationals. (Harding was eventually stripped of her title after the Olympics when all the stuff went down, but the title was left vacant, not handed to Kwan.)

    I think your point is that a lot of people thought Tonya harding didn't deserve to be there, which is fair, but the way it works in skating is that the winner of the Nationals has an automatic Olympic spot, period. Barring legal circumstances, of course, but with Harding that all wasn't determined until after the Olympics.

    So Michelle Kwan was in Lillehammer as an alternate and would have taken over for Kerrigan had she proven too injured to compete. She was on standby just as Hughes was. No argument there, due to, you know, the whacked knee and all. And there's no question that Michelle Kwan is a thousand times better skater than kerrigan (who, all told, was very weak in the history of US Skating.)

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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    I'm curious if the snowstorm in the Northeast corridor is going to drastically help NBC's ratings. I never have time to stay home and watch TV anymore, but there was no way I was going outside today.
    I'd would've helped if they hadn't waited until 3 p.m. to televise something besides women's hockey. No live coverage on a Sunday. Then when they do come on they show 2 minutes of action...2 mintues of commercials...rinse and repeat.

    NBC has made the Olympics almost unwatchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds
    NBC has made the Olympics almost unwatchable.
    ..and they are getting worse each time.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds
    I'd would've helped if they hadn't waited until 3 p.m. to televise something besides women's hockey. No live coverage on a Sunday. Then when they do come on they show 2 minutes of action...2 mintues of commercials...rinse and repeat.

    NBC has made the Olympics almost unwatchable.
    I'm enjoying the coverage a lot.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    I'm enjoying the coverage a lot.
    Just don't make the mistake of going to any news site because all the coverage is tape delayed
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Just don't make the mistake of going to any news site because all the coverage is tape delayed

    The biggest, most-often-forgotten-that-it-was-a-tape-delay tape delay in Olympic history was the U.S. hockey team vs. the Russians in 1980. Everyone knew who won by the time it aired in primetime.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds
    NBC has made the Olympics almost unwatchable.
    Amen!
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    Too bad. I can't stand figure skating, but I've always had a small crush on Michelle Kwan. I've always thought her to be an all around beautiful person.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    The Olympics are so tough. One chance every four years to win a gold medal, and the career of a skater is so short. Kwan won a ton of titles, and did win silver and bronze medals in prior Olympics, but she will never have the gold. A shame.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsBaron
    The Olympics are so tough. One chance every four years to win a gold medal, and the career of a skater is so short. Kwan won a ton of titles, and did win silver and bronze medals in prior Olympics, but she will never have the gold. A shame.
    Especially since she got screwed 1998. And Kerrigan was screwed in 1994. The "sport" lost a lot of credibility in my eyes with those two decisions. Both times they went to the media darlings and not the rightful owners, IMO. That's primarily why I've never been able to get behind any sort of competitions whcih the winner is determined by judges.
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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    obviously, this won't be popular on this board, but i think it was a crap move for her to be there in the first place...she had to know she would not be competitive this time around, yet she kept someone else from being there for the opening ceremonies...some people just don't know when to let go and her time was up long ago...

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    Re: Michelle Kwan withdraws from Oylmpics

    Quote Originally Posted by Red in Chicago
    obviously, this won't be popular on this board, but i think it was a crap move for her to be there in the first place...she had to know she would not be competitive this time around, yet she kept someone else from being there for the opening ceremonies...some people just don't know when to let go and her time was up long ago...
    This is what the media has been playing up for the last several months and the public seems to have latched onto it when the fact is that it is simply not true. I am, confidently/embarrassingly, as obsessed with figure skating as I am with baseball, I used to skate myself, and she absolutely had the tools to be competitive this year had it not been for the injuries. ****skaya, the Russian, is easily the favorite, but Michelle probably stood the best chance of the Americans. Emily Hughes, who is taking her place, just doesn't have the stuff yet, and Cohen is well-known for being a serious choker in competition.

    There's no proof that Emily Hughes would have gone to the Opening Ceremonies even if she had been there. And Kwan, lest we forget, was an alternate herself in 1994, in the same exact position. I don't remember this backlash then.

    edit: Oh my Lord this board censors the Russian's name. That is fabulous.
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