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    Best Lineup projector

    In an article on HardBallTimes the author has a short section about using projected stats and some complicated analysis to create the optimal lineup. Assuming the projections are right of course, here's what it put out for the Reds (it doesn't have pitchers and requires 9 players so I used Womack as a proxy for our pitcher).

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...-i-didnt-know/

    1. Freel
    2. Kearns
    3. Dunn
    4. Griffey
    5. Pena
    6. Encarnacion
    7. Lopez
    8. Larue
    9. Womack

    I like it! If you take Freel out and add in another "pitcher" Lopez moves to 1, LaRue to 7, and the new "pitcher" moves to 8. In other words, it likes Kearns batting 2nd (as do I) and Womack is the worst hitter in baseball.
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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    I like that well enough ... I'd do this ...

    1. Freel 2B
    2. Lopez SS
    3. Dunn 1B
    4. Griffey CF
    5. Kearns RF
    6. Pena LF
    7. Encarnacion 3B
    8. Larue C
    9. Pitcher

    /edit - meant to remove Woe-is-the-team-who-starts-me-at-2B-mack. for a pitcher.
    Last edited by gonelong; 02-23-2006 at 03:36 PM.

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    who's pitching?
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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    who's pitching?
    Well, it isn't Kooky Lefty, that's for sure.

    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Even in a situation where the Reds are playing with the DH in an AL park I can't find any reasonable justification for Womack to be in the lineup.
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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Even in a situation where the Reds are playing with the DH in an AL park I can't find any reasonable justification for Womack to be in the lineup.
    The choice of Womack had nothing to do with his presence on the Reds. It had everything to do with trying to find the worst possible position player I could to approximate the hitting ability of a pitcher. Womack just happened to fit the bill.

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Speaking of which, when is the Hacking Mass draft?
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland
    Speaking of which, when is the Hacking Mass draft?
    I don't know. I got screwed by Pokey Reese and Jorge Cantu last year.
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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Even in a situation where the Reds are playing with the DH in an AL park I can't find any reasonable justification for Womack to be in the lineup.
    Which brings up the question of who may actually be the DH in the AL parks.

    1. Freel
    2. Lopez
    3. Dunn
    4. Griffey
    5. Kearns
    6. Pena
    7. Encarnacion
    8. LaRue
    ?DH. Hatteberg/Valentin? -- depending on R/L opposing pitcher, but not necessarily at #9, however. If E.E. needs a rest, perhaps Aurilia plays 3B, with Encarnacion at DH sometimes. Womack doesn't make my list of the top 11 position players.

    I like Freel & Lopez at the expected "base-running" slots.

    Love Dunn's respectable foot speed and more than respectable OBP in front of Junior.

    Fear that E.E. at # 6 or higher puts too much pressure on him, at least early in the '06 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far East
    Which brings up the question of who may actually be the DH in the AL parks.
    My guess is Aurilia againt LH and Valentin against RH.
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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Aurilia on 2B, Freel in CF, Junior DHing to save his body.

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Did we move to the AL ?
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Did we move to the AL ?
    Maybe we should volunteer like Bud did with the Brewers

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Lopez 7th?

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    Re: Best Lineup projector

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    In an article on HardBallTimes the author has a short section about using projected stats and some complicated analysis to create the optimal lineup. Assuming the projections are right of course, here's what it put out for the Reds (it doesn't have pitchers and requires 9 players so I used Womack as a proxy for our pitcher).

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...-i-didnt-know/

    1. Freel
    2. Kearns
    3. Dunn
    4. Griffey
    5. Pena
    6. Encarnacion
    7. Lopez
    8. Larue
    9. Womack

    I like it! If you take Freel out and add in another "pitcher" Lopez moves to 1, LaRue to 7, and the new "pitcher" moves to 8. In other words, it likes Kearns batting 2nd (as do I) and Womack is the worst hitter in baseball.
    This is a nifty tool, Rick, and I'd love to see the lineup you've got above, but it just begs the question ... how many times this season will we see that exact lineup (with the pitcher in place of Womack's spot)?

    My guess, a whopping goose egg
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