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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    don't hate him for being a hedgehog. Hedgehogs win.

    I've been clamoring for a hedgehog since the internet opened. One lousy, stinkin' hedgehog.

    Instead, those sly foxes went out and built us a bandbox.

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    I don't see why some are defending Thomas. From all I've heard and read, he's been a primadonna jerk pretty much since coming to the bigs. I love it when these guys get called out. Thomas kept getting little barbs at the White Sox through the media and they finally had enough.

    Did Kenny go a little too far? Maybe. But I'm glad he said what he said and I don't like the White Sox at all.

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    I've heard he's a jerk too (mostly from Ozzie and K. Williams, but let's assume it's true for the sake of argument).

    Still, I read Thomas' comments in the Daily Southtown, and they in no way justify Kenny bringing up some of the stuff he brought up.

    In particular, I think it's classless to bring up that Reinsdorf lent Thomas money while he went through a divorce. That's a private matter, and a too low a blow.
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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton
    don't hate him for being a hedgehog. Hedgehogs win.

    I've been clamoring for a hedgehog since the internet opened. One lousy, stinkin' hedgehog.

    Instead, those sly foxes went out and built us a bandbox.
    I apologize for this major digression, but my favorite fox/hedgehog comparison deployed J. Brahms as the fox and Tchaikovsky as the hedgehog. Since I prefer Brahms compositions, I always liked the fox in this comparison.

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili
    In particular, I think it's classless to bring up that Reinsdorf lent Thomas money while he went through a divorce. That's a private matter, and a too low a blow.
    Yeah exactly, what's the point? looks like a jackass to bring stuff like that to light.
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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton
    don't hate him for being a hedgehog. Hedgehogs win.

    I've been clamoring for a hedgehog since the internet opened. One lousy, stinkin' hedgehog.

    Instead, those sly foxes went out and built us a bandbox.
    I have no idea what you are talking about. That may say more about me than it does about you but still.....
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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    I have no idea what you are talking about. That may say more about me than it does about you but still.....
    http://www.kheper.net/topics/typolog..._Hedgehog.html

    now, if a hedgehog takes a complex system and greatly simplifies it, while a fox does many things pretty well... does that make DanO roadkill?

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton
    http://www.kheper.net/topics/typolog..._Hedgehog.html

    now, if a hedgehog takes a complex system and greatly simplifies it, while a fox does many things pretty well... does that make DanO roadkill?
    Specifically possum roadkill.
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    DanO was a hedgehog whose "simple solutions" were simply wrong. He had the drive; unfortunately, it was over a cliff.
    Last edited by Johnny Footstool; 02-28-2006 at 12:21 PM.
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    I love it when these guys get called out.
    Yep, nothing classier than the guys doing the hiring ripping publically on the guys they hire.

    Where I come from that's considered beneath the roles that management is supposed to portray.

    Is it true?

    Perhaps, but if it was my organization I would prefer that managment try and show a little class towards the players.

    BTW as for the earlier steroids accusation floated out there... what a laugh, Frank has been HUGE forever and Frank Thomas killed the ball his whole career, mostly because he knew the strikezone. If Frank was on steroids you'd think he wouldn't have broken down so quick. It does a great disservice to the game to throw that bone at every departing player in the game and in my opinion and is nothing but a poor attempt at innuendo.

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    DanO was a hedgehog whose "simple solutions" were simply wrong. He had the drive; unfortunately, it was over a cliff.
    So he was a lemming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Yep, nothing classier than the guys doing the hiring ripping publically on the guys they hire.

    Where I come from that's considered beneath the roles that management is supposed to portray.
    Yeah, someone has to be the adult here. That should have been Kenny.
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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    BTW as for the earlier steroids accusation floated out there... what a laugh, Frank has been HUGE forever and Frank Thomas killed the ball his whole career, mostly because he knew the strikezone. If Frank was on steroids you'd think he wouldn't have broken down so quick. It does a great disservice to the game to throw that bone at every departing player in the game and in my opinion and is nothing but a poor attempt at innuendo.
    ^^^^^

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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    BTW as for the earlier steroids accusation floated out there... what a laugh, Frank has been HUGE forever and Frank Thomas killed the ball his whole career, mostly because he knew the strikezone. If Frank was on steroids you'd think he wouldn't have broken down so quick. It does a great disservice to the game to throw that bone at every departing player in the game and in my opinion and is nothing but a poor attempt at innuendo.
    Blame MLB and the Union for the public thinking these things. A laugh? The laugh is MLB and the Union for having those blind eyes for all these years. Disservice? Blame the afore-mentioned MLB and the Union for that, not me or any other fan who questions these things.

    Back to Frank... how long have you known the guy? Did you know him when he was 18-years-old and a freshman at Auburn? You may have. But even if you did, it does not mean you know what he did and did not do. Could he have started on the road to roids while playing football at a major D-I program? I'd venture to guess that thousands-upon-thousands of other athletes have. Is Frank above all that? Sure he could be, but I'd put the same odds on the possibility that he has used something that is not legal.

    But, as I have already said, laugh at MLB and the Union... not the fan(s). Blame them for something that was out of control and tarnished the game (at least for now). Blame them for innuendo. Blame them, don't blame the fan(s).
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    Re: Kenny Williams rips Frank Thomas a new one

    Back to Frank... how long have you known the guy? Did you know him when he was 18-years-old and a freshman at Auburn?
    No, but Pedro's best buddy in Atlanta knew him even before that.

    How long have YOU known him?


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