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    DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Winn, 3 years at nearly $8 million per (.346 career OBP, .425 career slugging)

    Wilson, 3 years at nearly $7 million per (great defensive range numbers, but out machine offensively)

    I don't get either one of these.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Eric Milton, 3 years, 25.5 million....

    The list goes on and on...

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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    And people wonder why bad teams just ... stay bad.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    If this continues, arbitration numbers are going to be sick
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Dumb teams paying it.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    I can't believe they gave Wilson a three-year, $20 million extension. In case you're wondering, he hit .257/.299/.363 last season. That's Juan Castro territory. (Actually, Castro's 2003 career year of .253/.290/.388 was better.)

    Career, he's .263/.304/.368. Milton was practically a great value compared to what the Pirates get from Jack F. Wilson.

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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    But Winn may have found his perfect comfort zone, and in comparison to gode awful contracts out there. He may actually be capable of living up to the numbers of the contract at least reasonably.

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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    The Winn contract is awful, but at least he's functional at the plate (I'd want to pay a lot less than $8M for functional). The Wilson contract ... well, I'm not sure there's a adjective for how stupid that deal is.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Both contracts are god-awful, but I would rather have Jack Wilson. He may not be able to hit, but he can flat-out pick it at shortstop. He is one of the best defensive shortstops in the majors. The way I see it Winn is just average all the way around.

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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    The Wilson contract ... well, I'm not sure there's a adjective for how stupid that deal is.
    How about, O'Brienesque?
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Winn - 363/499 last year. I'd definitely take those numbers.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    The Winn deal is pretty typical of what's wrong with MLB -- huge salary for moderate talent.

    The Wilson deal is pretty typical of what's wrong with the Pirates -- pure, unadulterated idiocy.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    The Winn deal is pretty typical of what's wrong with MLB -- huge salary for moderate talent.
    ... as had been said many times ... the huge inefficiency in baseball is in the paying of the players in the middle.
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    ... as had been said many times ... the huge inefficiency in baseball is in the paying of the players in the middle.
    Yep. Moneyball.
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    Re: DUMB CONTRACTS - Randy Winn and Jack Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Yep. Moneyball.
    the smaller market teams can't afford to pay big $$ for mediocre performance(or worse).
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