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    So who's the sleeper?

    Someone's going to be the surprise of spring training. I'm not talking about a guy like Edwin Encarnacion here. We knew he was good. I'm talking about a guy coming from nowhere and making a big impression.

    Right now Mike Gosling has the lead in that category, but I'm thinking Jimmy Journell could be the guy who really steps up. He throws as hard as anyone the Reds have got.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Kozlowski could be the guy. It's doubtfull we'll see a sleeper out of the position players.

    Sadly, it might be Homer. I say sadly because if it is, you just know the Reds will overpromote.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Great thread M2.

    With Milton's balky calf/leg/whatever and Wilson's arm, I am really hoping an arm comes out of nowhere to provide a legitmate "other" option.

    I have not heard much from Journell, he intrigues. Gosling's numbers are indeed solid so far. But I saw Koz in AA last year, and have real hopes for him.

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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    I'm going to go with Kozlowski as well. He's pitched pretty well to this point, and should get stronger as the spring goes on.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Looks like he had some rotator cuff problems in the past. Journell's got an excellent minor league K ratio, but his control seemed to vanish in '04 and '05 following the injury.

    If he can strike batters out, I'm rooting for him.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Ahh the "who is the next Josias" informal poll

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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    i'm thinking Coffey of the regulars/semi-regulars if the Reds follow through on Soto's advice.

    i think Gosling will make the team, but i'm not sure he'll perform in the regular season. Tommy Phelps is the one i expect to be the real seasonal surprise.

    and of the position players, i'm going with Tuffy Rhodes.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Raven:

    All the names you mentioned are who I was first thinking of when I read the post. I agree that Gosling will make the squad...I think that perhaps Phelps will make the team too.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Why Phelps? Isn't he basically Lance Davis without the substance abuse problems?

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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Why Phelps? Isn't he basically Lance Davis without the substance abuse problems?
    by being surprising i mean slightly better than league average for a LOOGY. and i think Lance Davis probably would have had a better career than Phelps has.

    Phelps has decent stuff, he's pretty consistant with it too. last year was the first time he was really given a chance, and he summarily spent most of the year on the DL with various strains and pulls (wheather that's always the case is anyone's guess). he's also 32 and lefthanded, so he could be finally at his peak (albeit it'll probably only last a year).
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Why Phelps? Isn't he basically Lance Davis without the substance abuse problems?
    Phelps has a career MLB under 3.00 as a reliever. I think he can match Mercker.

    However, my pick is Mike Burns. If he can find a pitch to neutralize lefties, watch out.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Media-anointed sleeper -- Burns or Gosling

    My sleeper -- DeWayne Wise
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Someone's going to be the surprise of spring training. I'm not talking about a guy like Edwin Encarnacion here. We knew he was good. I'm talking about a guy coming from nowhere and making a big impression.

    Right now Mike Gosling has the lead in that category, but I'm thinking Jimmy Journell could be the guy who really steps up. He throws as hard as anyone the Reds have got.
    Does Journell still throw hard? IIRC, he's had a couple of shoulder surgeries to go with a couple more surgeries on his arm.
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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    hoping that someone improves enough to be the 12th man on a terrible pitching staff? how depressing

    fast forward me five years, Sherman... uggh, same bandbox, except now no sluggers

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    Re: So who's the sleeper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ochre
    Ahh the "who is the next Josias" informal poll


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