Turn Off Ads?
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 38

Thread: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    13,190

    Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Alfonso Soriano has a ten million dollar contract with, I think, one year left. Flaws and all, he would be a great hitter in a park like GAB. The Nats may have to get rid of him because he refuses to play outfield.

    Reds don't have a regular second baseman. While pitching is their biggest need, Soriano's offense couldn't hurt. I know he isn't great defensively, but neither is Freel, Womack or Aurilia at this stage of his career.

    Milton would likely do better in a ballpark other than GAB. Reds might have to throw in a sweetner, perhaps an outfielder who can play where Soriano won't. Maybe Denorfia.

    Reds fill Milton's rotation spot with a younger pitcher.

    Nats get a pitcher who may rebound in their stadium and get rid of Soriano problem.

    Any chance?

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Findlay,Ohio
    Posts
    1,809

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    One problem, Bowden's ego stands in the way. I would think the only way Jim would listen to an offer from Krivsky, is if it started with Dunn, Pena, or Kearns. Ideally, I would rather have Jose Vidro and plug him into our #2 slot everyday.. he would provide a presence we haven't had since Larkin.
    "As long as I have fun playing, the stats will take care of themselves." - Ken Griffey Jr.

  4. #3
    The Lineups stink. KronoRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    West N. Carolina
    Posts
    55,572

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Bowden will bend over back wards to keep Soriano, he's his type of player..all tools.
    Go Gators!

  5. #4
    Your killin' me Smalls! StillFunkyB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Florence, KY
    Posts
    3,118

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61
    Alfonso Soriano has a ten million dollar contract with, I think, one year left. Flaws and all, he would be a great hitter in a park like GAB. The Nats may have to get rid of him because he refuses to play outfield.

    Reds don't have a regular second baseman. While pitching is their biggest need, Soriano's offense couldn't hurt. I know he isn't great defensively, but neither is Freel, Womack or Aurilia at this stage of his career.

    Milton would likely do better in a ballpark other than GAB. Reds might have to throw in a sweetner, perhaps an outfielder who can play where Soriano won't. Maybe Denorfia.

    Reds fill Milton's rotation spot with a younger pitcher.

    Nats get a pitcher who may rebound in their stadium and get rid of Soriano problem.

    Any chance?
    I would do it.
    "And the fact that watching him pitch is like having someone poop on your soul." FCB on Gary Majewski

  6. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Pook's Hill
    Posts
    1,548

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    One problem, Bowden's ego stands in the way. I would think the only way Jim would listen to an offer from Krivsky, is if it started with Dunn, Pena, or Kearns. Ideally, I would rather have Jose Vidro and plug him into our #2 slot everyday.. he would provide a presence we haven't had since Larkin.
    Milton + Womak for Vidro....brilliant!

    I doubt Bowden would agree, but it does solve his Soriano problem.

  7. #6
    Member Spitball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Posts
    5,618

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    I would like to see the Reds be more creative in their attempt to improve the team. Acquiring a ten million dollar second baseman, even if it means dumping the last two years of Milton, is not a move towards improving the biggest need, pitching.
    "I am your child from the future. I'm sorry I didn't tell you this earlier." - Dylan Easton

  8. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Pook's Hill
    Posts
    1,548

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    You are overstating Vidro's cost. Vidro is due to make 7.0 million in 2006, 7.5 in 2007 and 8.5 in 2008. The contract is longer than I would like, but for the same amount of money for the next 2 years, I would take Vidro.

    And if Vidro has a bounce back year, and hitting in the GAB all it would require is health, he should be worth quite a bit at the deadline.

  9. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    13,190

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    I don't see Nats trading Vidro without a big return.

    As for those who would prefer pitching, good pitching is not coming in return for Milton whose contract is inflated and performance has been poor.

    Soriano, on the other hand, is a problem for Bowden because of his refusal to play outfield. Couldn't this be an opportunity to send Milton to a more suitable stadium and give the Reds a potent offensive player who can be traded at deadline, let go after one year, or kept if he works out?

  10. #9
    You're soaking in it! MartyFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Posts
    3,350

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    It gives Pants a way to save face on the Soriano thing...lso gives him another pitcher who SHOULD do better in the DC park.

    Soriano would be good trade bit at the deadline and have HUGE numbers in GAB...how does his defense compare with that of RICH, Freel and Womack?
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

  11. #10
    Charlie Brown All-Star IslandRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    4,835

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball
    I would like to see the Reds be more creative in their attempt to improve the team. Acquiring a ten million dollar second baseman, even if it means dumping the last two years of Milton, is not a move towards improving the biggest need, pitching.
    I think it actually qualifies as a creative move, in the manner of a chess game where Move A only makes sense after you see Move B. Soriano is in his last year before free agency and would be an attractive bat at the trade deadline, especially to an AL club. At worst, he's not traded and we get two premium draft picks after he walks. Going into 2007, I'd rather have $8.5 million to spend plus whatever the return was on Soriano, than give the $8.5 to Eric Milton while having picked up no additional talent.

    Of course, I see this deal happens in the first place, because if they don't want Soriano they could do better than Milton.
    Last edited by IslandRed; 03-11-2006 at 12:07 PM.
    Not all who wander are lost

  12. #11
    The Lineups stink. KronoRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    West N. Carolina
    Posts
    55,572

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan
    Soriano would be good trade bit at the deadline and have HUGE numbers in GAB...how does his defense compare with that of RICH, Freel and Womack?
    It's worse if I remember correctly.

    If we traded for him I'd like to see him flipped immediately.
    Go Gators!

  13. #12
    You're soaking in it! MartyFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Posts
    3,350

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    It's worse if I remember correctly.

    If we traded for him I'd like to see him flipped immediately.
    If he could be flipped right away maybe it could be a three team deal?

    What teams would be interested in Soriano? Would the Reds still be a partner in this deal or would the Nats be in a better spot by temselves?
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

  14. #13
    Member Crosley68's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    West Virginia
    Posts
    954

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    This move would not improve pitching? I disagree, NOT having Milton take his usual turn 32 times a year would IMHO greatly improve the pitching.
    Let's play two!!!

  15. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    13,190

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan
    If he could be flipped right away maybe it could be a three team deal?

    What teams would be interested in Soriano? Would the Reds still be a partner in this deal or would the Nats be in a better spot by temselves?
    Might be fun having Soriano around for a year. Reds would be an offensive powerhouse. My lineup would be Lopez, EE, Griffey, Soriano, Dunn, Kearns, Pena, Larue, pitcher. Or you could hit Soriano 5th, Dunn 4th. Not too shabby either way.

  16. #15
    Member Spitball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Posts
    5,618

    Re: Idea: Could Reds Trade Milton for Soriano?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosley68
    This move would not improve pitching? I disagree, NOT having Milton take his usual turn 32 times a year would IMHO greatly improve the pitching.
    I think there are better ways to improve the pitching than having 10 million sunk into a second baseman. And, if Soriano could be flipped for a better deal than Milton, why would the Nationals want Milton???
    "I am your child from the future. I'm sorry I didn't tell you this earlier." - Dylan Easton


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25