Originally Posted by dougdirt
If Bailey is so great, send him to the minors and let him dominate which he hasn't been able to do yet. I see no point in wasting an arb year on a pitcher who hasn't even had sustained success in the minors yet.
Originally Posted by dougdirt
If Bailey is so great, send him to the minors and let him dominate which he hasn't been able to do yet. I see no point in wasting an arb year on a pitcher who hasn't even had sustained success in the minors yet.
School's out. What did you expect?
Becuase this team is starved for pitching, and truthfully, Bailey may be one of the best 5 guys we have....not that it says to much, but if money and free agency werent coming into play, not to mention what could happen to his confidence, he would probably have a shot at cracking the rotation. When we are going to be running out Milton, Wilson and Williams at least 4 times a week for most of the year, it doesnt look fun so people are grasping for anything that looks promising as a starter.Originally Posted by pedro
Pedro, I think you misunderstood me. No way on Gods green earth is Homer Bailey stepping onto the mound of GABP anytime this year if its my choice.Originally Posted by pedro
Originally Posted by dougdirt
That's shows a real lack judgement IMO.
School's out. What did you expect?
I dont think Milton or Wilson are any better than Bailey is. I really think Bailey could have an ERA above 6.50 in the majors. He would probably strike out more and give up fewer hits. I also doubt he would give up home runs at the same rate as Milton. He has a problem walking guys though. Thats the only problem I see with him right now. Would I put him anywhere but Sarasota to start the year? No. Do I think he would fare better than Milton in Cincinnati, yes.
I think Bailey just gave up 5 runs against Pittsburg. Please put him in Sarasota or maybe Chattanooga, Kriv. Don't rush the best looking prospect we've ever had. He needs to work on his control before he gets even close to being in the bigs.
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Maybe it was 1967, he was talking about his rookie year...geez. Lighten up, I had a few adult beverages that night and you expect me to remember every word. My brain is old dude.Originally Posted by pedro
Bailey's runs were mostly unearned courtesy of a Kearns drop. Just read that on the game thread.
Bailey gave up 2 hits and 1 unearned run, 5 Ks.
Who got tagged with runs 11 through 14 for Pittsburgh then?
Goose Gosling just got cooked for most of those.
No, Gosling was out after the 10 run 1st. It's 15-1 now, so runs 11-15 were off of...who?
If Bailey has done anything, he's probably put himself in AA instead of high A ball. If goes out in AA and absolutely dominates, then bring him up for a cup of coffee.
But the fact of the matter is that 1 pitcher won't make this team a contender, there's A LOT to lose if he buckles, and there's no reason to start his arb clock.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Standridge got absolutely obliterated all the way back to Louisville.
DanO has set this franchise back 10 years.
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
That's fine. I just find any comparison between Tom Seaver and Homer Bailey to be absolutely comical at this point.Originally Posted by icehole3
anyway, to further my point. Look at Seaver's minor league stats from 1966.
I don't think it took too much "balls" for Hodges to run a 22 year old Seaver out there in 1967. He had a pretty good year at AAA in 1966. Better than Bailey, or any other Reds pitcher has done in the minors for as long as I can remember.If Bailey had this type of success in the minors I would be all for giving him a rotation spot.Code:Year Team Name League Age Org. Level W L ERA G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK h9 hr9 w9 k9 whip 1966 Jacksonville IL 21 Nym AAA 12 12 3.13 34 10 0 210.0 184 87 73 66 188 7.89 --- 2.83 8.06 1.19
School's out. What did you expect?
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