Curious of what the majority thinks.
Like the trade
Dislike the trade
Curious of what the majority thinks.
Thank you Walt and Bob for bringing winning baseball back to Cincy -- it was nice while it lasted..
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
If this was the best we could do we should have kept him.
I'm not to thrilled about it right now.
That could change.
"And the fact that watching him pitch is like having someone poop on your soul." FCB on Gary Majewski
I am a HUGE Wily Mo fan. That said, I hate this trade, obviously. I lose Larkin, Casey, and now Pena in the last few seasons and gain nobody to be a fan of. I guess Womack is likeable if he performs well...
I don't know what to say. I have bought my Opening Day tickets already, and was looking forward to the re-building of this organization and tradition that I love. I am forever going to be a Reds fan, but man, it's really sad to lose a player that you always knew has "it".
Bronson Arroyo? Heh, whatever. Not the player I'd want in exchange for one of my favorite players. There is a reason Red Sox fans are loving this. People aren't blind. WMP is young, and has a nice career ahead of him.
All of this said, I obviously understand why this was done. Hitting for pitching...that's fine. I just wonder why it couldn't have been Austin Kearns to be dumped for pitching. What has Kearns proved that Pena hasn't?
The more I think about the deal, the more I like it.
Call it cautious, but I like the deal.
"Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill
That he can make consistent contact, not to mention play some good defense perhaps?
I'm definately less than pleased . So its just hard to get excited about a 29 year old .500 (33-33) pitcher with a lifetime 4.59 era. Giving up more hits 611 than innings pitched 588 doesn't excite me either.
But hopefully he'll give the Reds 200+ innings with an era in the 3.80-4.15 range. Just think Wily Mo Pena was worth a bit better return.
Pitching is very thin. Given the market, I think this was a good trade. WMP has explosive potential, but let's face the fact that we can give up plenty of offense for anything approaching decent pitching. Arroyo isn't Cy Young material, but he is more than adequate to get the job done with teh run support he will likely get. We managed to make a trade that improved our team and didn't break the bank.
The last two seasons Arroyo has given up 60 more air outs than ground outs. He is a contact pitcher. He will be pitching in GABP. Its going to get real ugly.
Pitching they say wins games. That said , will be interesting to see if the loss of WMP homers will be offset at the GABP by Arroyo,s fairly average stuff.Personally i think it would have been a nightmare to start the season with the rotation as it was shapeing up with or without Wilson.Offensively the development of EE at third might keep the runs per game at the same level as last year.I think the end result might be to the plus by a few games.
My feelings excatly. I feel cheated.Originally Posted by uks2h
My reading of fans' reactions on the Boston Globe website shows them to be as divided as Reds fans.Originally Posted by uks2h
I like it.
Your loyalties are divided if you're looking at Womack as your next Red to like.... Larkin was old, it was his time to go; Casey was getting old and way too expensive for his lack of production, time for him to go too; and while I like WMP, we have a strength in OF and moving an OF for pitching just makese way too much sense in my book. As for Womack being likeable if he performs well, you're gonna hate him, b/c he's never performed well his entire career!Originally Posted by uks2h
I like the trade. I'm not to sure Wilson would be ready by the start of the season so this just adds to the starters while making Adamn happy playing his old position.
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Said pitcher Kent Mercker: "What's that, Junior Griffey's wallet?"
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