Is this the congrgation at the Church of Our Lady of perpetual 90 loss Seasons?
Im a fan regardless,whether they win 90 or lose 90. And I will preach my loyalty to this team until my last breath for that is what it is to be a fan.
Is this the congrgation at the Church of Our Lady of perpetual 90 loss Seasons?
Im a fan regardless,whether they win 90 or lose 90. And I will preach my loyalty to this team until my last breath for that is what it is to be a fan.
I did because I felt that the Reds with Pena+Kearns full time would produce better at less of a cost than Pena/Kearns + Casey.Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
I thought it really was the best they could get for Casey and Williams as a #5 would be just that, a #5 starter.
After today, its a bit different, because your lineup now has Kearns + Hatteberg....and Arroyo doesnt make up for that.
Nothing to see here. Please disperse.
The problem isn't Arroyo. The problem is they are going to have two loads of dung(who have no reason even being on a roster, much less starting) manning 1b and 2b. Nobody seems to know where the smell is coming from.
The 50% PECOTA line for both is a negative VORP and their career is defined by large FRAA numbers at 1b and 2b.
Denorfia projects a higher VORP(+6) and brings above average defense in the OF.
gO rEdz
Nothing to see here. Please disperse.
But why does this mean the Womack will play more? This is the line-up I'd expect...
Freel/Aurilia 2B
Lopez SS
Griffey CF
Dunn LF
Kearns RF
Encarnacion3B
Hatteberg 1B
LaRue C
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With that line-up Womack may get two starts a week tops, same as any backup.
and yet turning the 2b and 1B over to Womack and Hatteberg made the defense much worse than last year. Amazing. Beyond stupidity.
I was so pumped for this season to begin. I couldn't wait to see what an offense led by youngsters Adam Dunn, Felipe Lopez, Edwin Encarnacion, Austin Kearns, and Wily Mo Pena could do. Add in a healthy Griffey, Freel, and LaRue and I thought this team score 850 or more runs this year. Now I am so disappointed. They will be lucky to score 750 runs this year with Hatteberg and Womack in the lineup.
Very sad day. Completely ruined Opening Day for me.
i Reelly leik teh ReDz two.
Wow. I thought I was the only one down on Narron. No way do I ever want Bob Boone in a reds uni ever again.Narron is so full of crap. I can't wait until he is fired or his contract runs out. I would seriously rather have Bob Boone or Dave Miley.
FWIW Hatteberg will put up better numbers than he did last year and the reds should be able to aquire a cheap decent hitting firstbaseman to plug in there. Right now, it's a weakness, but, once a GM starts looking for them those kind of players are all around.
Williams will be better than Milton/Ortiz from last year. That's progress of a sort. Sean Casey was way to expensive for his production.
The red sox aquired Arroyo by claiming him off waivers from the Pirates. They got two seasons of him as a starter in Fenway Park and then flipped him for WMP. THAT'S a front office. That's what the reds need to be doing, finding waiver claims and 6 year minor league free agents with that kind of up side. Not selling players low and buying high.
All that aside, Krivsky is trying to wrangle a baseball team out of the assembly of talent that Dan O'Brien left. As a fan I chaffed and chaffed under O'Brien's patient 'wait and see' mandates. While I don't agree with many of Krivsky's moves, I do appreciate that he is trying to form a baseball team, not get the best deal. In the short term, this deal made the reds better. The pitching was simply too thin.
WMP sure does seem to leave a trail out there. I wonder how many of his teamates will come to the going away party. I have to wonder how that is going to play in Boston.
Finally, I really wonder how long ago this deal was agreed upon. There were all kinds of comments when Hatteberg was signed. The reds never seriously seemed to want to put Adam Dunn at firstbase. Did he even see 10 innings there in ST? WMP never did come back from the WBC. I wonder if the deal was agreed upon weeks ago with only the amount of cash left over depending on circumstances when the deal was executed.
Womack now has one less guy to stand between him and PT considering that Freel is now more likely to back up an OF on a consistent basis. And if Womack gets two starts per week, that's a real issue- particularly when combined with Hatteberg stealing PA from better lineup options. No reason to slot Hatteberg at 1B and Dunn in the OF when you've got Denorfia available to play the OF on a daily basis.
In short, Narron and Krivsky are going to use crappy players more often than they should as a result of the trade.
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
newera, yes he did take that into account.
guttle, i dont think the rotation got much better. Is Arroyo going to be any better than Germano was? I am not sure about that one. I would rather have Pena back and Germano starting than not have Pena and have Arroyo.
I would love to see Krivsky target Hee Seop Choi now. He can be had for cheap, and I really think he could have a breakout season in the Great American Ballpark. Or sign Carlos Pena if the Tigers do release him.
Trade for Chris Young. The D-Backs are loaded with outfield prospects and would most likely part with him.
When basing the trade on Run Differential you have to look at who the other players are that would/would have played in their absence. I feel we give up more runs with the alternatives to Arroyo than we lose with the alternatives to Pena.
Thank goodness for baseball.
couldn't agree more. At least they each have upside, it's all downhill for the ancient Hatteberg.
Oh my god...... we didn't even get a prospect back... not even a low level prospect...
Bronson isn't even a starter. Please don't tell me we traded Wily Mo for an average 'closer'
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