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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    The best lineup the Reds could run out..IMO

    LF Freel
    SS Lopez
    1B Dunn
    CF JR
    RF Kearns
    3B EE
    C LaRue
    2B Richey
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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    So I was looking at who I thought this trade would compare to and I thought about Jose Guillen. The reds traded him as part of the 2003 purge sand got two unproved pitchers Harang and Valentine. Now I totally agree the WMP has a higher ceiling than Jose but Jose had about 200 more games worth of experience and had some sucess, decent average, less power but he could only get us two mid level minor leaguers.

    I guess I am saying that although this trade does not excite me we at least are trying to get something proven vs. potential and for the new owners it comes down to attendance this year to set the tone for their ownership.
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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Freel 2nd
    Lopez SS
    Dunn 1st
    Junior LF
    Kearns RF
    EE 3rd
    Denorfia CF
    Larue C

    Easily the optimal lineup. Easily.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Freel 2nd
    Lopez SS
    Dunn 1st
    Junior LF
    Kearns RF
    EE 3rd
    Denorfia CF
    Larue C

    Easily the optimal lineup. Easily.
    I still like

    Freel 2B
    EddieE 3B
    Dunn 1B
    Junior LF
    Lopez SS
    Kearns RF
    LaRue C
    Denofia CF

    EddieE hitting second still does it for me. Hitting in front of Dunn=s-u-cc-e-ss.
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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor
    I still like

    Freel 2B
    EddieE 3B
    Dunn 1B
    Junior LF
    Lopez SS
    Kearns RF
    LaRue C
    Denofia CF

    EddieE hitting second still does it for me. Hitting in front of Dunn=s-u-cc-e-ss.
    Too much pressure on the kid, IMO, I'd keep him in the 6 slot.
    Thank goodness for baseball.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor
    I still like

    Freel 2B
    EddieE 3B
    Dunn 1B
    Junior LF
    Lopez SS
    Kearns RF
    LaRue C
    Denofia CF

    EddieE hitting second still does it for me. Hitting in front of Dunn=s-u-cc-e-ss.
    Sure. That'll work too. I guess I was thinking less "order" than who's in the lineup and what position they should man.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    2B Freel
    SS Lopez
    LF Dunn
    CF Griffey
    RF Kearns
    3B Encarnacion
    1B Shealy/Choi
    C LaRue
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    1 k every 3 ab's - 1 BB every 17, never hit above .280 anywhere and fielded like he had a ashtray for a glove.

    Pena couldn't carry Dunn's jock much alone the team.

    Be disgusted but at least note the concept of reality.
    WMP: AB/k = .346
    Dunn: AB/k = .322

    Dunn has never hit above .270.

    And Dunn was allowed to learn the game in the minors and plays everyday. And if WMP has a ashtry for a glove, Dunn has a water balloon for a glove and a water pistol for an arm.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    What really buggers me about all this is that Hatteberg is 36 and had a poor year last year with alot of at bats. His bat speed has got to be suffering. It is probably asking too much for him to rebound. Best case we are looking at a 750 ops and average defense. Screams bench player to me. Give Denorfia shot. I don't think Dunn would be any worse defensively than Hatteberg and Denorfia would be at least as good as Dunn in the field.
    Thank goodness for baseball.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by adampad
    WMP: AB/k = .346
    Dunn: AB/k = .322

    Dunn has never hit above .270.

    And Dunn was allowed to learn the game in the minors and plays everyday. And if WMP has a ashtry for a glove, Dunn has a water balloon for a glove and a water pistol for an arm.
    Ah, the important batting average.

    Adam Dunn is one of a couple handful of hitters still active with a career OPS over .900. Pena, as much as I love his power, has a career .780 OPS. Pena is not even in Dunn's league.

    Dunn is a better fielder too.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by PickOff
    What really buggers me about all this is
    No, it bugs you -- the imagery of buggering is bad, bad.

    Back to baseball, carry on.
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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    What is the point of trading for Arroyo? Lets be honest. He is not going to make us a contender. So why trade our potential superstar away? I would rather watch WMP play everyday and the Reds go 70-92 than not having him and going 80-82. The trade might be a step in the right direction but its at the wrong time.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    IF Arroyo can return to his 2004 form, then I won't mind the deal. What hurts the most is the fact that Womack and Hatteberg will now be everyday players. Just awful.

    Krivsky needs to pick up a 1B before Opening Day. Ryan Shealy and Hee Seop Choi are available, go get 'em Krivsky.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Ah, the important batting average.

    Adam Dunn is one of a couple handful of hitters still active with a career OPS over .900. Pena, as much as I love his power, has a career .780 OPS. Pena is not even in Dunn's league.

    Dunn is a better fielder too.
    Your putting words in my mouth. He said WMP never hit over .280 so I am simply reminding him that Dunn hasn't ever hit over .270. Oh and by the way, they have the exact same career AVG.

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    Re: Trade: Wily Mo to Red Sox

    Dunn has never hit above .270.
    Sure he has, every year in the minors.

    WMP... nah.

    K's are closer than I recall, but the walks soften that quite a bit.


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