The best lineup the Reds could run out..IMO
LF Freel
SS Lopez
1B Dunn
CF JR
RF Kearns
3B EE
C LaRue
2B Richey
The best lineup the Reds could run out..IMO
LF Freel
SS Lopez
1B Dunn
CF JR
RF Kearns
3B EE
C LaRue
2B Richey
Go Gators!
So I was looking at who I thought this trade would compare to and I thought about Jose Guillen. The reds traded him as part of the 2003 purge sand got two unproved pitchers Harang and Valentine. Now I totally agree the WMP has a higher ceiling than Jose but Jose had about 200 more games worth of experience and had some sucess, decent average, less power but he could only get us two mid level minor leaguers.
I guess I am saying that although this trade does not excite me we at least are trying to get something proven vs. potential and for the new owners it comes down to attendance this year to set the tone for their ownership.
Freel 2nd
Lopez SS
Dunn 1st
Junior LF
Kearns RF
EE 3rd
Denorfia CF
Larue C
Easily the optimal lineup. Easily.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
I still likeOriginally Posted by Falls City Beer
Freel 2B
EddieE 3B
Dunn 1B
Junior LF
Lopez SS
Kearns RF
LaRue C
Denofia CF
EddieE hitting second still does it for me. Hitting in front of Dunn=s-u-cc-e-ss.
Too much pressure on the kid, IMO, I'd keep him in the 6 slot.Originally Posted by Raisor
Thank goodness for baseball.
Sure. That'll work too. I guess I was thinking less "order" than who's in the lineup and what position they should man.Originally Posted by Raisor
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
2B Freel
SS Lopez
LF Dunn
CF Griffey
RF Kearns
3B Encarnacion
1B Shealy/Choi
C LaRue
WMP: AB/k = .346Originally Posted by westofyou
Dunn: AB/k = .322
Dunn has never hit above .270.
And Dunn was allowed to learn the game in the minors and plays everyday. And if WMP has a ashtry for a glove, Dunn has a water balloon for a glove and a water pistol for an arm.
What really buggers me about all this is that Hatteberg is 36 and had a poor year last year with alot of at bats. His bat speed has got to be suffering. It is probably asking too much for him to rebound. Best case we are looking at a 750 ops and average defense. Screams bench player to me. Give Denorfia shot. I don't think Dunn would be any worse defensively than Hatteberg and Denorfia would be at least as good as Dunn in the field.
Thank goodness for baseball.
Ah, the important batting average.Originally Posted by adampad
Adam Dunn is one of a couple handful of hitters still active with a career OPS over .900. Pena, as much as I love his power, has a career .780 OPS. Pena is not even in Dunn's league.
Dunn is a better fielder too.
No, it bugs you -- the imagery of buggering is bad, bad.Originally Posted by PickOff
Back to baseball, carry on.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
What is the point of trading for Arroyo? Lets be honest. He is not going to make us a contender. So why trade our potential superstar away? I would rather watch WMP play everyday and the Reds go 70-92 than not having him and going 80-82. The trade might be a step in the right direction but its at the wrong time.
IF Arroyo can return to his 2004 form, then I won't mind the deal. What hurts the most is the fact that Womack and Hatteberg will now be everyday players. Just awful.
Krivsky needs to pick up a 1B before Opening Day. Ryan Shealy and Hee Seop Choi are available, go get 'em Krivsky.
Your putting words in my mouth. He said WMP never hit over .280 so I am simply reminding him that Dunn hasn't ever hit over .270. Oh and by the way, they have the exact same career AVG.Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
Sure he has, every year in the minors.Dunn has never hit above .270.
WMP... nah.
K's are closer than I recall, but the walks soften that quite a bit.
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