Pena is a Red Sox. Arroyo is now a Red. It's official.
Pena is a Red Sox. Arroyo is now a Red. It's official.
Where are you getting your info? I see nothing on ESPN, CBS.Sportsline or either of the team websites.
I'm not finding this anywhere.
Reds got ripped off.
Krivsky's first trade=F+
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I'm pretty sure Brooklynredz is a reliable early source on these types of things, just for future reference.
4009
Yup Brooklyn's got cred.
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?" ~ Jim Bouton
Ugh. Not only do we get a 4.5 ERA pitcher, which is moderately better than what we had (though that IS in the AL), but the offense takes a BIG hit with Hatteberg a full-time starter now. I don't see them letting Denorfia start, so the whole Dunn to 1st was a sham? What gives?
Or was the FO all of a sudden terrified that they only have two major league starters in the rotation?!?
Ugh! I'm not surprised to see WMP traded but I was hopeing to get better pitching for him.
I was also looking forward to seeing an OF of WMP, JR and Kearnes. Worst part is that it looks like Hatteberg is now the starting first baseman.
Sigh!
Rem
Maybe they can try Kearns at 3b? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
4009
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=4426
They seem to love the trade. Color me shocked :sarcasm: Ya think?!?
Confirmed on Marc's blog.
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/
Not sure how I feel about this one yet...
A flute with no holes is not a flute. A doughnut with no holes is a danish. -- Zen Philosopher Basho
Just what we need--another flyball pitcher with low K totals. Everything about him sreams "average" to me--no complete games, average BB totals, low K totals, etc. He was able to keep the ball in the park significantly more than, say, Milton--and he pitched in a hitter's park, too, so that much is encouraging.
On the flipside, while I don't think Arroyo is this team's answer for its pitching needs, I think people have a serious tendency to overvalue WMP. He's got all the raw talent in the world, but unrefined talent is worthless. While i would have rather seen the reds get more of a groundball pitcher--or one with a higher K rate--a pitcher in the neighborhood of Arroyo is about where WMP's value currently sits.
At least the Reds answered one of their question marks in the rotation--and this perhaps also opens the possibility of Milton moving to the bullpen if he continues to remain ineffective as a starter.
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
Yippee! Another #4 starter.
The more things change...
Even if WMP struggles to reach his ceiling, he's far too talented to give up on for the likes of Bronson Arroyo. What's Arroyo's upside? We've seen it.
I'm not crazy about this. Even though he's better than most of the schlubs we have, Arroyo seems very average. I would have prefered to see what WMP could playing FT before dealing him off for an average pitcher.
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