IMO it would have been better to hold Pena and see if he got better, Arroyo is just more of the same stuff we already have.
IMO it would have been better to hold Pena and see if he got better, Arroyo is just more of the same stuff we already have.
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See my previous post. His K/9 in April was 4.13.Originally Posted by M2
April 4.13
May 5.93
June 6.46
July 2.55
Aug. 4.5
Sept. 3.55
His K rate was mediocre prior to the ASB. After the ASB, it was bafflingly low. I'll buy that he was tired after the ASB, but he wasn't doing very well in terms of K/9 even at the start of the season.
HUGE red flag.
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Oh, come on.
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I don't want Freel, Hatteberg, and Womack all starting. Too many judy hitters.
Start Freel at 2B and trade for Shealy.
2B Ryan Freel
SS Felipe Lopez
CF Ken Griffey Jr.
LF Adam Dunn
RF Austin Kearns
3B Edwin Encarnacion
1B Ryan Shealy
C Jason LaRue
Pena + Ramon Ortiz would be value-equitable to Hatteberg + Arroyo. Not that I wanted him, but Ortiz was available for nothing but money.
As of this moment, the Reds have gained no Run value advantage and now have to find a viable 1B alternative so as not to lose Run Diff ground.
That's the kicker and it means that Arroyo was actually more expensive from a resource standpoint than just Wily Mo Pena. That's what happens when you don't win deals.
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Meah, this one gets a collective *yawn* from me.
We dealt an overrated hitter with overrated potential for an overrated pitcher.
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This is the lineup you'll see
2B Womack
SS Lopez
1B Hatteberg
CF JR
RF Kearns
LF Dunn
3B Aurilia
C LaRue
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Oh, that may be the opening day lineup but I'm guessing Narron's going to be rolling out a lot of lineups that will give us painful memories of the days of Bob Boone.
Well, I just threw up in my mouth. I can see Jerry "Baseball Guy" Narron starting that particular eight about, oh, 100 times this year too.
And God help that Lopez if he doesn't hit, because we can always shift Rich over to short and throw Frankie Menechino in at third--now there's a guy who knows how to play the game. And that Dunn, he strikes out too much. Quinton McCracken will give us a contact hitter and speed, there's our left field situation. Junior doesn't run fast enough for a CF, so we'll trade that overrated RF Kearns for Marquis Grissom, I figure we can always re-sign Tuffy Rhodes or Kenny Lofton to play right. Now there is a gritty team that can bunt, steal a base, manufacture a run, man they just know how to play the game the right way.
If Narron uses that batting order he should be fired.
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I really don't think it is. He'd thrown a good number of innings in the 2nd half of 2004, it took him until May to bounce back to his prime form, but an even larger inning load caught up to him and his overall numbers were. It's hardly surprising that a movement/control pitcher like Arroyo (and what separates him from lesser pitchers in the category is that his movement is excellent) would see his K totals drop when dealing with a new level of fatigue. What he delivered in May and June is probably representative of what you can expect moving forward. He established a solid K rate in AAA over the course of multiple years and I think those concerned that his 2005 K rate will be what defines him moving forward are worrying themselves over a fluke.
Arroyo isn't going to pitch 200 major league innings for the first time in his career ever again. He's now done it. He's actually at a real good spot in terms of his career. He's been effective against MLB hitters and he's topped the 200 IP plateau. That's the point where you'd expect a pitcher to put together his best seasons. I'm not saying I expect Arroyo's best to be wonderful, but it should be solid.
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if Arroyo is concealing something and doesn't return to his pre-2005 form, my estimate of the Reds allowing 1,000 looks pretty "good."
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