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  • They're cursed.

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  • Steve Bartman.

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  • Dusty Baker.

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  • Injuries.

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Thread: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

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    Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    They on paper have such a nice balance of power, speed, defense and pitching...
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?













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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Bartman. Prior, Wood and Z. The Cubs were supposed to beat the Yankees throwing the curse off and passing the torch to a new dynasty. But Bartman screwed it all up. They have not looked the same again. Now Prior has shoulder problems, Wood's losing it, the bullpen is falling apart.

    All because of Steve Bartman. Signed: Cubs fan.

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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Baker, Hendry, injuries.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Bad managers.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Because Cub fans believe a goat cursed them. A GOAT.

    If you are a firm believer that farm animals have mystical powers over you and those around you, well, in my opinion, you deserve 100 years of hardship.

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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    i voted injuries, but some of that could be laid on Dusty Baker and Jim Hendry. I hate the Cubs.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    The Cubs are always overrated by the media. They have never been as good as the media hype.

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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    I voted Dusty Baker but I really don't care why as long as it continues
    More often than not, when someone is telling me a story all I can think about is that I can't wait for them to finish so that I can tell my own story that's not only better, but also more directly involves me.

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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Not that good.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    ''Dustys dugout dice'',rrtflmao.Does it come with a lifetime supply of toothpicks?
    But seriously Dusty's refusal to lift his starters time in and time out have not only cost him wins,but very expensive arms.I remember him doing the same thing in San Francisco.He cost them a division title I believe because of that.
    Dusty needs to write a book on how to wreck potential Cy Young arms.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Why are the Cubs such underachievers?
    Phil Wrigley and the fact that the Cubs, Braves and the Giants where the only 3 NL teams to never feel the touch of Branch Rickey. Plus they didn't value pitching, the Braves took awhile to catch on but they eventually did.

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    Note: does not include Reds American Association Record.
    1876-1945
    WINNING PERCENTAGE              PCT       W       ERA       G     
    1    Giants                     .561     5111     0.25    14638   
    2    Cubs                       .560     5417     0.25    14734   
    3    Pirates                    .537     4668     0.14    13724   
    4    Reds                       .494     4114     0.13    13085   
    5    Dodgers                    .493     4084     -.01    13437   
    6    Cardinals                  .486     3912     -.11    13478   
    7    Braves                     .473     4561     -.06    14584   
    8    Phillies                   .446     4053     -.45    14897   
    
    1946-2004
    
    WINNING PERCENTAGE              PCT       W       ERA       G     
    1    Dodgers                    .552     5136     0.36    24843   
    2    Cardinals                  .526     4886     0.08    26709   
    3    Braves                     .526     4881     0.13    25391   
    4    Giants                     .521     4846     0.07    26593   
    5    Reds                       .515     4784     -.11    26231   
    6    Phillies                   .488     4533     -.09    25687   
    7    Pirates                    .486     4515     -.06    26411   
    8    Cubs                       .467     4339     -.24    27039
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    See my sig.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
    The Cubs are always overrated by the media. They have never been as good as the media hype.
    Bingo.

    And I'm thinking that the 2006 Cubs are a particularly bad model for that franchise.
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    Re: Why are the Cubs such underachievers?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    And I'm thinking that the 2006 Cubs are a particularly bad model for that franchise.
    I actually haven't seen them getting a lot of good pre-season press. Last year at this time they were predicted by many to win the division and some to even win the World Series. This, of course, was pretty absurd.

    Injuries and media hype do have a lot to do with it, but I daresay that this team more than any other does have a psychological problem. Not some curse of a goat, but a mentality of wallowing in loserdom...this has more to do with the fans than the team, of course; the team is a franchise like any other. But I do think at times it really hangs over their heads and spills over onto the field.
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