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    Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    The two MLB teams are unnamed in the story.

    Could one of them be the Reds - not likely, given Castellini's latest posturing. But he could use it as leverage.

    Reds, Indians and Orioles all mentioned as possibilities.

    http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...eball0329.html

    Goodyear chooses site to build baseball stadium

    Christine L. Romero
    The Arizona Republic
    Mar. 29, 2006 12:00 AM

    GOODYEAR - Goodyear has added a big slugger to the team vying for major-league baseball.

    City officials, who have been working for years on landing a spring training facility, have announced that the team behind San Diego's baseball-inspired downtown renaissance is on board to bring the major leagues to Goodyear.

    "We've come a long way on this subject," said Goodyear Mayor Jim Cavanaugh. "This isn't over. Not to be trite, but we are rounding first base. . . . We need to slide into home in the next month."

    The Goodyear team includes JMI Sports, the development firm for the San Diego Padres. The creation of Petco Park helped revitalize downtown San Diego.

    In a unanimous vote Monday night, the Goodyear City Council chose a 240-acre parcel for the proposed 10,000-seat spring-training stadium. The land, one of three options, sits near proposed major freeways and just south of the planned Goodyear City Center, which will eventually act as a "downtown" combining shops, homes and government and office buildings.

    The land is owned by the Wood family, West Valley farmers for four generations. Terms of the public-private partnership haven't been determined. Goodyear officials declined to elaborate, saying it's premature.

    Glendale and Casa Grande also are working on pitches to expand the Cactus League in their cities. But the latest development may indicate that Goodyear is a run ahead in the game.

    A few years ago, Goodyear voters approved $10 million in bonding to help fund a spring training site.

    The proposed facility is expected to cost roughly $65 million, said John Ruggieri, managing director for Goodyear-based Rose Properties Southwest LLC. Rose is the developer working with JMI Sports and HOK Sport to craft the Goodyear proposal.

    Ruggieri expects the Goodyear spring training facility to spur development of "the preeminent urban village of the West Valley," he said.

    Also Monday night, the council directed Goodyear staff to proceed in negotiations with two Major League Baseball teams, which city officials refused to identify.

    But it's no secret that teams in Florida's Grapefruit League are near the end of a lease or are looking for better deals. They include the Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Indians and Baltimore Orioles.


    Goodyear officials want the development to be more than just a baseball stadium. They envision a "mixed-use stadium village" designed for year-round use.

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    Re: Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    How many extra bedrooms do you have, Josh? Might have a few Zoners visiting in the spring...
    Will trade this space for a #1 starter.

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    Re: Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    The Reds in AZ would be wrong, like The Cars with a new lead singer wrong.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    The Reds in AZ would be wrong, like The Cars with a new lead singer wrong.

    I'd love it. Even if Todd Rundgen was singing.
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    Re: Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    My In-Laws live in Goodyear.

    Talk about an approach/avoidance conflict.
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    Re: Arizona suburb in negotiations with two MLB teams for new ST stadium

    Two new updated articles on this - things are apparently heating up

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/spec...ining0331.html

    Cities go into red on stadiums to lure tourists

    Craig Harris
    The Arizona Republic
    Mar. 31, 2006 12:00 AM

    From the Governor's Office to city halls, spring training in Arizona is hailed as a huge economic driver.

    Yet of the eight municipalities that host Cactus League teams, every one but Pima County loses money maintaining the stadiums, according to records obtained by The Arizona Republic.

    Despite the losses, three more cities - Glendale, Goodyear and Casa Grande - are jockeying to build a spring training facility that could cost more than $70 million and result in annual operating losses of $1 million to $2 million. Leaders from those cities say the losses are worth absorbing because of the gains spring training would provide.

    "What it does is accelerate the quality of development in the town," Goodyear Mayor Jim Cavanaugh said. "We think there's a big economic benefit."

    The amount of red ink varies depending on how cities calculate their losses. Mesa, for example, has the biggest losses at $1.3 million, but the city counts year-round expenses for running Hohokam Stadium and minor-league facilities for the Chicago Cubs. Tucson has a $35,000 loss for running Hi Corbett Field, but it counts operating time as only when the Colorado Rockies are in town.

    The Cactus League estimates that spring training will pump up to $230 million into Arizona's economy this year, with some of the roughly 1.1 million local and out-of-town fans driving rented cars, eating at area restaurants and sleeping in the region's hotels. Scottsdale and Mesa leaders say their economies reap $16 million and $20 million, respectively, by hosting the San Francisco Giants and Cubs each spring.

    But sports economists say spring training isn't the tourism magnet it's touted as. Most of the tourism dollars would come to the Grand Canyon State anyway, they say, from tourists looking to escape cold climates. They also say the related seasonal jobs typically are low-wage, part-time positions that have little effect on the economy.

    The teams are the primary beneficiaries of spring training facilities, particularly new stadiums, said Roger Noll, a Stanford University economics professor who has studied the financial benefits of sports facilities. The 12 Cactus League teams receive annual payouts of up to $2.5 million. Unlike the municipalities, the franchises do not disclose whether they make a profit.

    "You don't have to have a Ph.D. in economics to know that (a ballpark is) a silly investment," he said. "They shouldn't expect an economic return. They will have to spend more on taxes and get less services because they will have a world-class spring training facility."

    Litchfield Park resident Albert Rodriguez doesn't think it was silly to bring spring training to Arizona.

    "It brings in money for the cities, so I think it's all right," said Rodriguez, who goes to about three spring training games a year. "And it's good for the kids."

    Moving West?
    Glendale, Goodyear and Casa Grande want to build complexes that likely would host teams from the 18-squad Florida Grapefruit League, which lost the Kansas City Royals and Texas Rangers when they relocated to Surprise in 2003.

    Goodyear has $10 million in voter-approved bonding capacity to get a 10,000-seat stadium started, while Casa Grande plans to increase its sales tax by 8/10 of 1 percent to pay for its project, which also would include an equestrian center and exhibition hall. Glendale, which provided a $180 million subsidy to build Glendale Arena for hockey's Phoenix Coyotes, would not disclose how it would pay for its facility.

    Florida lawmakers, in order to keep other teams from leaving, are considering a bill that would provide millions of dollars to renovate spring training sites. A few teams, whose leases are set to expire, are considering moving West because of the better financial deals and upgraded facilities. Better seats and amenities allow teams to charge fans higher ticket and concession prices.

    "All of the teams in the Grapefruit League that have an interest in leaving are waiting to see if that legislation has legs," said Bill Bridwell, chairman of Casa Grande Baseball 2008, a citizens group trying to build a spring training facility. He said the earliest any move could occur is in two years.

    Bridwell said he has been negotiating with four Grapefruit League teams, but he declined to identify them. Two teams, Cleveland and Baltimore, told The Republic they would consider moving if the Florida legislation failed.

    Arizona officials have said the Indians, Orioles and Cincinnati Reds are considering a move. The Orioles trained in Yuma and Scottsdale in the 1950s. The Indians trained in Tucson from 1947 to 1992. The Reds never trained in Arizona.

    David Cardwell, director of the Grapefruit League,said roughly half of the state's host cities make money. Many of the Grapefruit League's teams play in cities with older parks that have little debt.

    Who benefits?
    In 2000, the Legislature created the Arizona Tourism and Sports Authority to keep the Cactus League healthy and to pay for a new Arizona Cardinals stadium. Maricopa County voters that year approved $205 million for Cactus League projects over 30 years, with financing mostly coming from rental cars and hotel taxes.

    The sports authority has paid $68.3 million for stadium projects in Surprise, Scottsdale, Tempe and Phoenix.

    That funding source has helped Arizona poach two from Florida. But there is no Cactus League money available until 2019, when the sports authority could start reimbursing any Maricopa County community for up to two-thirds of a stadium's cost, said Brad Parker, a sports authority spokesman.

    Casa Grande, in Pinal County, is not eligible for sports authority money. Dennis Burke, chief of staff to Gov. Janet Napolitano, said his boss believes it's "economically beneficial" to have more teams training in Arizona.

    "We are just selling our product. We don't fly to Florida and say, 'Here is your sweetheart deal in this town in Arizona,' " he said. "We sell the entire package."

    John Zipp, a University of Akron sociology professor who has studied the economic impact of spring training in Florida, said Arizona and its cities would be better off marketing and building their assets than trying to lure teams for spring training because baseball has such a small economic impact.

    "What we found in Florida is most people come for the weather," he said. "They leave places like Ohio and go there for the beaches and sun. In Arizona, it would be for the sun."

    But Burke said he has firsthand experience that fans come specifically to Arizona instead of other sunny states because of spring training.

    "My aunt is at my house," Burke said. "She flies in from Chicago, and her dog is named Cubbie. . . . The only reason she comes out here for two weeks is to come to spring training games. Otherwise, I guarantee you she wouldn't be here."

    East Valley communities of Gilbert and Chandler, which hosted the Milwaukee Brewers from 1986 to 1997, said they are not interested in building a costly spring training site. The Brewers are now in Maryvale.

    "Every year, you have to spend a significant amount of money, and you get a bump for, what, a month or so?" said Harry Paxton, a Chandler economic development expert.

    But Mark Coronado, Surprise's community and recreational service director, said that although his city loses at least $300,000 during spring training, the ballpark put the small city on the map with media features.
    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/spec...eball01Z5.html

    Glendale: site picked for spring-training facility

    Louie Villalobos and Christine L. Romero
    The Arizona Republic
    Apr. 1, 2006 12:00 AM

    Just days after Goodyear unveiled a coup in the hunt for spring training grounds and teams, Glendale officials said they have a site picked and a financial plan in place for Arizona's next Cactus League facility.

    Glendale is entering the final stages of negotiations with two Major League Baseball teams and one landowner to bring Glendale a stadium, said Julie Frisoni, the city's director of marketing.

    "Team representatives have indicated that Glendale is the preferred site for the new facility, and they are not engaged in negotiations relative to any other locations," she said in a written statement.

    Frisoni would provide no details of the teams involved or the location of the stadium.

    Glendale's announcements came after the Goodyear City Council on Monday chose a 240-acre parcel for a proposed 10,000-seat spring-training stadium. The land sits just south of the planned Goodyear City Center, which will eventually act as a downtown with shops, homes and offices.

    "What it does is accelerate the quality of development in the town," Goodyear Mayor Jim Cavanaugh said of the appeal of spring training, which pumps $225 million into the state's economy every year. "We think there's a big economic benefit."

    Goodyear officials also approved entering into negotiations with two teams and have submitted proposals to the Arizona Sports and Tourism Authority, which could provide funding.

    Glendale has done all that, Frisoni said.

    Both Goodyear and Glendale are working with development partners and have submitted preliminary proposals to the tourism authority. Casa Grande also is attempting to get a spring training deal.

    Brad Parker, spokesman for the authority, said there is no set application process for getting state funding.

    Parker has said completing the deal will be strictly between the cities and the teams. The authority will come in at the end of the talks, once the city has a site, agreement and funding package in place. The authority will simply review all proposals and decide on how to spend future dollars.

    "We're really interested in giving a level playing field for everyone involved," Parker said.


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