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    NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    BEST TRADES: Pittsburgh gave up a nothing pitcher (Dave Williams) to gain competence at first base (Sean Casey). Omar Minaya received a lot of criticism for perhaps getting too little for Mike Cameron, Jae Seo and Kris Benson, but he added the lefty power bat the Mets craved in Carlos Delgado.
    FIRST MANAGER FIRED: Jerry Narron, Reds - With Lou Piniella sitting off-stage to jump in if he does not want to wait for Joe Torre's demise. The Cubs' Dusty Baker and Phillies' Charlie Manuel also are on notice.
    DON'T BE SURPRISED IF . . . Tom Glavine outperforms Pedro Martinez. Barry Bonds passes Babe Ruth in April, but his body will not let him play beyond May. The Marlins complete a total renovation by trading Miguel Cabrera (the Mets, A's, Angels, Red Sox) and Dontrelle Willis (Dodgers, Giants, Blue Jays, Rangers). The Reds lose 100 games in a year for the first time since 1982 and finally trade Ken Griffey, possibly to the White Sox if rookie Brian Anderson does not work in center field. Todd Helton finally grows frustrated with all the losing and accepts a trade (Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants).
    Here's the link: http://www.nypost.com/sports/66266.htm
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    What's the value of "competence" in today's market? I'm guessing it's not 8 large a year.
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    I would bet everything I own, we do NOT lose 100 games

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by KearnsyEars
    I would bet everything I own, we do NOT lose 100 games
    Hope springs eternal.
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by KearnsyEars
    I would bet everything I own, we do NOT lose 100 games
    I agree. I honestly think that the Reds are better than they were last year. I really believe a .500 season is doable.

    Milton cannot be as bad as he was last year.
    Griffey is primed for a monster season.
    Harang looks solid.
    Claussen should improve.
    Arroyo will give us innings.
    Kearns is ready to breakout.
    Dunn should hit 50 bombs.
    FeLo should be even better than he was last year.
    EdE is going to give us more offense than Randa did.

    It could be a fun season.
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    It is fun to "jump" on the Reds because of their recent past. This team is one solid starting pitcher away from being a contender in my view. If Claussen and Harang were to step it up they could certainly be a contender into August instead of fading in June. I wish reporters would actually look at teams objectively before making remarks like that. Everything would have to fall apart for this team to lose 100 games. That 1982 team didn't have players like EdE, FeLo, Griffey, and Dunn at even one position. It want happen.
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    The good news about that article is you can't beleive what the Post says.
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    Yea, it seems to be fashionable to pile on the Reds, much in the vein of the Bengals before Marvin, and not that its undeserved. They are a fickle lot, though, so don't hold them to the dire predictions if things turn out differently. They will never be mentioned again. I do not see a worst team than last year, and only injuries to Dunn, Griffey, Lopez, Encarnacion, and Harang for huge chunks of the season would likely lead to a 100 loss season. Even in our own division, I don't see a whole lot keeping the Pirates from fitting the bill more than we do. They are going to have to get great seasons yet again from their young pitchers, a rebound year from Perez and Wells to get healthy just to approach the mid 70s in wins.

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    That 1982 team didn't have players like EdE, FeLo, Griffey, and Dunn at even one position.
    It had league average pitching and a putrid offense.

    This team has the opposite with the chance to blow the doors off a league average offense. But the Reds pitching is worse than the Reds hitting was in 1982.

    Injuries could push this team to 100 losses quicker than we'd like to admit.

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio
    What's the value of "competence" in today's market? I'm guessing it's not 8 large a year.
    If you can afford 8 large (and the Casey only cost the Pirates 5), then competence beats the snot out of nothing (which is what Williams is and what Pittsburgh had at 1B without Casey).
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou

    Injuries could push this team to 100 losses quicker than we'd like to admit.

    Yeah, that's my fear too. Too many things have to go right.

    The pitching and defense could improve a lot and still be putrid.
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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    This team has more of a shot to be like 1999. That team scored 841 runs and had a team ERA of 3.99. The offense on that team was extremely balanced and ours could be similar this year. It was driven by Greg Vaughn (Adam Dunn) and Sean Casey (Ken Griffey). Man... Casey was awesome that year...

    Harang and Claussen/Arroyo need to be Harnisch and Parris. Solid and reliable. And then we can't afford to have anybody suck at the Eric Milton level.

    The biggest difference however is the bullepen. Graves, Sully, and Williamson soaked up innings at great ERAs. That won't happen with this crew, but if the whole bunch can keep an ERA around 4.50 -- that would be a major improvement.

    Obviously we're not gonna win 96 games like we did in 99, but losing 100 is pretty drastic...
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    If you can afford 8 large (and the Casey only cost the Pirates 5), then competence beats the snot out of nothing (which is what Williams is and what Pittsburgh had at 1B without Casey).
    Craig Wilson is nothing? I'd take him over Casey, and am not sure why Pittsburgh has never seen it that way.

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    This team has more of a shot to be like 1999.
    Or 1965 or 1956 or or 1969.

    Three more years that played that hand... "If we have league average pitching we'll be in there."

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    Re: NY Post's take on the upcoming season (Reds mentioned)

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62
    Yeah, that's my fear too. Too many things have to go right.

    The pitching and defense could improve a lot and still be putrid.
    I'd say that just as many things have to go right for any hope of contention, the same number of things have to go wrong to approach a 100 loss season. Factor in a high probability that Krivsky will do some roster shaking in-season and I'd say rash predictions will be hard to make.


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