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    Rotoworld on Freel

    They got it right on this one

    Ryan Freel reached base three times, stole three bases and scored three runs as the Reds' leadoff hitter on Wednesday.
    And that's why he should be the Reds' regular second baseman over Tony Womack
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    It shouldn't even be debateable, particularly considering that Womack does not have a defensive upside to Freel. He's worse by every conceivable measure.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Until Womack hits himself out of the position, he is probably going to split time with Freel. Narron will take a good OD game and let that influence him for weeks, maybe even months.

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    Until Womack hits himself out of the position, he is probably going to split time with Freel. Narron will take a good OD game and let that influence him for weeks, maybe even months.
    But even so, you'd have to think today's outing by Freel would influence him as well.

    You'd THINK.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    I agree that it will be MUCH easier to sit Womack with a game like this already under Freel's belt. If he could stay healthy for 600 PA, he could challenge for the NL steals crown.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    In the dictionary when you look up lead off hitter you should find Freel.

    Not even a contest.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    In the dictionary when you look up lead off hitter you should find Freel.

    Not even a contest.
    Just to make the point how ludicrous the Womack/Freel argument is.

    Freel OBP in 2004 was .371 and 2005 was .370.

    Womack's career high OBP is .349 and his career OBP is .317. This is a player in his late 30's in a downward spiral. The thought of platooning them or splitting time is sheer stupidity.
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    I just wonder how many games Freel would be able to play? Guy throws himself around like a rag doll and doesn't have the durability to show that he can do that AND last an entire season.
    Having said that, I'd love to see him hit his way into the 1 spot so that Womack can ride the pine as a backup or as the starter once Ryan plays his legs into the ground in August or gets another DUI or D&D.
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck
    I just wonder how many games Freel would be able to play?
    Why does it matter. Aurilia is a capable reserve with the glove and can hit some HRs. Just give Freel a day or two off a week and if he gets hurt then plug-in Aurilia. Not complicated and ther's no reason Womack should even be in the picture.
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Freel is going to get plenty of at-bats. He may not be at second base everyday, but he is going to play alot at different positions. He already is the everyday second baseman against lefties.
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck
    I just wonder how many games Freel would be able to play? Guy throws himself around like a rag doll and doesn't have the durability to show that he can do that AND last an entire season.
    Having said that, I'd love to see him hit his way into the 1 spot so that Womack can ride the pine as a backup or as the starter once Ryan plays his legs into the ground in August or gets another DUI or D&D.
    Why save him? we'll be out of it by June, play him till he drops.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Why save him? we'll be out of it by June, play him till he drops.
    Way to keep the faith Krono.


    Last edited by reds44; 04-05-2006 at 06:46 PM.
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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    I said June..not May
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Why save him? we'll be out of it by June, play him till he drops.
    This is what I don't understand. If you use him as a util guy, he's guarenteed to get only 350-400 PA. If you play him everyday, he might play himself on to the DL and only get 350-400 PA OR he might stay healthy and get 600 PA. However, if you don't play him, there's no way he gets that 600.

    And if he does wind up on the DL, at least you can bring up another guy to contribute, rather than have him sitting on the bench b/c he needs to rest.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Rotoworld on Freel

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    if you play him everyday, he might play himself on to the DL and only get 350-400 PA.
    couldn't the same be said of Jr?
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