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    Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    2 Attempts... 2 Saves

    All the opening Day hoopla made me kinda over look the fact that he's looking really good in relief so far.

    Just wanted to give a shout out to our Closer

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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Yep,he clearly is throwing the ball real good and I say keep him in that row as long as he keeps pitching this way.The way he is throwing I think he wants to be the closer!!
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Yea.....comes out with his mind set in the right place and has so far gotten the job DONE.

    Lookin good so far.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    He should be used as the first reliever out when it's a close game..I loath the thought of Burns,White ext blowing leads in the 7th and 8th.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    He should be used as the first reliever out when it's a close game..I loath the thought of Burns,White ext blowing leads in the 7th and 8th.

    I don't know about Burns yet but I don't like White!! He played on my dads pirates last few years and stunk it up.Hes starting to do the same thing here. I think they should get Wagner up here I don't know what he done in ST but hes got to be better than White.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVPacman
    I don't like White!! He played on my dads pirates last few years and stunk it up.Hes starting to do the same thing here.
    My response to that is that White threw 30 pitches yesterday. Through the first inning he pitched, he was LIGHTS OUT. He threw 11 pitches in the first inning and was completely in control. However, in the second inning he pitched, he tired quickly (which he has been known to do, plus the fact he's in his late 30's) and gave up the home run which fell about 13 rows below where I was sitting. If we can use him in single inning outings, I think he will do well. Plus, I think he has more incentive because he's so close to his hometown (and mine in Springfield, Ohio...in fact, he's building a house about a half mile away from where my mom lives). Give him some time and one-inning stretches. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Go Reds!
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Yea that hurt today.

    but id much rather save him for the 8/9th inning so he can hold the lead. when it matters most.

    Just keep hoping for a few guys to step up as the "clear cut setup men"
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    No matter how you spin it, David Weathers is a +4 career ERA pitcher. Last year he posted a pretty good statline, holding batters to a .669 OPSA and keeping his hits and walks under control.

    He's a very good middle relief pitcher, but he's not prototypical "closer" material at all -- definately not the kind of guy that's going to post that 2-something ERA and strike out the side in the 9th. Unfortuantely, he's really the best of what's around.

    Basically, don't get too excited: It's great to see him throw 2 good saves, but he'll regress back to his career norms and give up hits and runs as the season wears on. But, if the Reds want to develop something resembling a good bullpen, they need to find someone who misses bats to deal in the 9th, and let Weathers do what he's most suited to: protecting leads in the 7th and 8th.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor
    No matter how you spin it, David Weathers is a +4 career ERA pitcher. Last year he posted a pretty good statline, holding batters to a .669 OPSA and keeping his hits and walks under control.

    He's a very good middle relief pitcher, but he's not prototypical "closer" material at all -- definately not the kind of guy that's going to post that 2-something ERA and strike out the side in the 9th. Unfortuantely, he's really the best of what's around.

    Basically, don't get too excited: It's great to see him throw 2 good saves, but he'll regress back to his career norms and give up hits and runs as the season wears on. But, if the Reds want to develop something resembling a good bullpen, they need to find someone who misses bats to deal in the 9th, and let Weathers do what he's most suited to: protecting leads in the 7th and 8th.

    While I do not disagree with you, he is now 17 of 21 in save opp's. I do not disagree that we move him at the break, unless we are knee deep in a real race (hey, let me dream), but I think he has been solid the last season + 2 games

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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by SC Reds Fans
    While I do not disagree with you, he is now 17 of 21 in save opp's. I do not disagree that we move him at the break, unless we are knee deep in a real race (hey, let me dream), but I think he has been solid the last season + 2 games
    He's doing a fine job -- in the end, as long as he continues to make outs and keep his strikeout totals above around a 7 k/9, he should be alright as closer.

    However, the more he (along with any other pitcher on this staff) has to rely on putting the ball in play and having the defense make outs behind him, the more likely it is there will be more and more blow ups in the future.

    And, for what it's worth, I disagree about shipping him out unless you get some decent return. He's 36, durable, and probably has at least another year or so of good baseball left in him. On a team with no bullpen whatsoever, that's not a commodity to be tossed away for more stickless wonders that are out of options or velocity challenged hurlers with no out pitch.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Even though Weathers doesn't throw hard it seems like he can get the job. I really don't see why he couldn't save ballgames all year barring an injury.

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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Weathers has a closer's mentality. I like him. I say ride him!
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Quote Originally Posted by harangatang
    Even though Weathers doesn't throw hard it seems like he can get the job. I really don't see why he couldn't save ballgames all year barring an injury.

    I have him as my closer all year on MLB 2006 the show, after Wagner blew his only attempt to start the season, Weathers has went 23 for 23 in save attempts!!!!!!! He doesn't get many K's but he just gets the outs!

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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Weathers did well last year, and should be doin the same thing this year.

    And I think it really could depend on where at in the game we are.. And who we have left in the pen.

    Coffey/Merk still there and Reds in a tight spot and need an out or two. Bring in Weathers.

    If we are up a couple with no one on ect, bring in someone else... Save Weathers for the 9th.
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    Re: Weathers-Clear Cut Closer?

    Coffey should be the setup man for Weathers.


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