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    The ongoing search for clutch

    Baseball Prospectus readers may be familiar with this already, but here's an article at ESPN about clutch hitters. It's an excerpt from the BP book. It discusses Tony Perez but doesn't draw any conclusions about him. It does name the best clutch hitter since 1972, however.

    One other thing. It says a lead-off out is more than twice as costly as the last out of an inning. I think I know what they're getting at, but I'd think the last out of an inning would be infinitely costly.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...t&lid=tab4pos2

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    I wonder what part of the brain the clutch skill lives in.
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Last guy I want to pitch to with a runner on base is Manny Ramirez...but thats just my opinion.

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner
    I wonder what part of the brain the clutch skill lives in.
    The clutchdulla oblongata?
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    dunn was clutch last nite

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by WomackRULZZZ250
    dunn was clutch last nite

    The umps were more clutch by reversing that call for Dunn's flair to center where they initially called it a catch by Duffy.

    For the record, I think 479 feet for Dunn's HR is a small estimate.

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Skeptics would point out that Dunn struck out with a runner on first, flied out with the bases loaded, and grounded out with a runner on second. Believers would point out that as the game got close and late, he came through.

    I expect him to hit at least 50 homers this year and drive people crazy every time he doesn't hit one.

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    My favorite line regarding clutch: Clutch is something you do, nothing something you are.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Clutch is to the left of the brake.
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    My favorite line regarding clutch: Clutch is something you do, nothing something you are.
    I thought Clutch was "a writer and pilot with a muscular build, white hair and rugged good looks".

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGARB
    I thought Clutch was "a writer and pilot with a muscular build, white hair and rugged good looks".

    For some reason, that cartoon was the most terrifying thing to me as a baby.

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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003
    For some reason, that cartoon was the most terrifying thing to me as a baby.
    Yeah, but baby's are scared of everything.

    Plus, they never have your back in a bar fight.
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Clutch is the bane of my existence, because I believe in it and I love it, but I know there's no way I can justify it with facts. In that sense, it is similar to my love for the Reds themselves.
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21
    The umps were more clutch by reversing that call for Dunn's flair to center where they initially called it a catch by Duffy.

    For the record, I think 479 feet for Dunn's HR is a small estimate.
    That "flair" was still a base hit--both before and after the call was reversed...in the bottom of the 8th of a tie game...with a 1-2 count against him. Just sayin'
    Last edited by Blimpie; 04-07-2006 at 02:36 PM.
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    Re: The ongoing search for clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    Clutch is to the left of the brake.
    My dad always called that the "parking brake"
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