BTW, how are the Rox set for catching? Think they'd take LaRue, Freel or Aurilla (wishful thinking) and Dave Williams for Shealy, Francis and a prospect?
BTW, how are the Rox set for catching? Think they'd take LaRue, Freel or Aurilla (wishful thinking) and Dave Williams for Shealy, Francis and a prospect?
I agree totally on Free. He is worth more to us than what I can imagine we could get in return. Players like Freel seem to be undervalued on the market, so why get rid of him when you've got him on such a good deal?
I really think Larue must be in the mix. If so, I sure hope Ross fares well batting against lefties. Watching Valentin bat righy yesterday...scary.
The Rox are a possibility. I have kinda fell off the Francis bandwagon though. I watched him this week and apparently he has the "Oliver Perez Velocity Reduction Disease" or something, b/c he was hitting like 88 on the gun. I saw him around 92-94 when he first came up. Juan Morillo is who the Reds want from the Rockies. He touches 100 mph and threw 5 scoreless last night with 7 Ks in AA. Only 22 as well.Originally Posted by corkedbat
How about Larue for Shealy and Morillo?
It's a very fair question. Sure, we need prospects. Everybody needs prospects, except the Yankees.Originally Posted by BUTLER REDSFAN
But for my money, I want the vast number of my trade routes to pull in MLB or young MLB talent.
Aurilia/Denorfia can bring in prospects; Kearns/Freel should bring in MLB talent, IMO.
You can nab both--prospects and actual producers--at one time.
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We need to see that to the rest of baseball....Freel is a Chris Stynes type player.....a AAAA+ player who on a poor team get to play now and then.
Freel is an awful outfielder (IMHO)....he has a weak arm and seems very uncontrolled when running after something not right at him. Sure, he may dive and get a ball now and then, but he is just as likely, if not more likely to turn a ball in the gap inot a triple with a misjudged dive or just a poor route to the ball....(again IMHO).
Thinking Freel will bring much of anything in return is sort of a wish more than reality IMHO.
That depends on what your definition of "much of anything" is. Will he bring us an Ace? Obviously not. He could certainly bring us a couple of very good relievers if nothing else. Guys who get on base at the top of the lineup and then make a lot of things happen when they do are pretty valuable, especially when they can play multiple positions like he can. Not only can he steal, but his stealing changes the pitchers' focus so it is more on him than the batter, which can also be good in and of itself.
All I know is this, only 3 position players on the Reds should be untouchable. 1. Felipe 2. Dunn 3. Edwin. If we could trade Freel and get equal value for him, and get this bullpen much needed help I would do it. We aren't going to be able to trade Womack or RA and get something that will actually help us. If you want to get something good, then you have to give something good.
Freel, Kearns, one of the catchers, and Griffey are the most likely to go.
I would do Griffey for Garcia/Garland and Anderson in a heartbeat.Originally Posted by reds44
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I disagree. Freel is a lot faster than Stynes (36 and 37 steals the last two seasons) and has a higher career OBP. I agree he has little trade value though.Originally Posted by red-in-la
I don't know if Anderson was included, plus we don't really need him. I would do Griffey for Garcia in a heartbeat, but Garland I might have to think about.Originally Posted by VI_RedsFan
If you trade Griffey then Freel and Deno are your centerfielders.
Originally Posted by reds44
I don't think Jr would go to World Champ White Sox
I don't believe in trade speculation until Big Donkey says it's real.
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