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    Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    AB H 2B 3B HR BB AVG SLG OBP OPS

    Player A 500 150 30 5 20 50 .300 .500 .400 .900

    Player B 500 140 20 0 40 30 .280 .560 .340 .900


    Just curious to see comments and reasoning.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    If I'm looking at A vs B correctly, I like A b/c he gets on base 6% more of the time than B, mainly due to 20 more walks in the 500 AB sample size. He also has 10 more 2B than B in the same 500 AB, as well as has 5 3B to B's 0, which leads me to believe A might have more speed than B and or run the bases better/more efficiently.

    I vote A overall.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    It depends on what your lineup is, if your lacking power id take B. If you need more of a discipline hitter who can hit for avg, still has some pop, and gets on base obviously you take B.
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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21
    If I'm looking at A vs B correctly, I like A b/c he gets on base 6% more of the time than B, mainly due to 20 more walks in the 500 AB sample size. He also has 10 more 2B than B in the same 500 AB, as well as has 5 3B to B's 0, which leads me to believe A might have more speed than B and or run the bases better/more efficiently.

    I vote A overall.
    I would vote A as well for the above stated reasons.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    If the guy you are looking for is A, then Ill take B, if you like B, then ill take A simply because Im a butthead.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Pretend there's no difference defensively or in the cost, and that's like choosing between Andruw Jones now, and Bernie Williams in his prime. I'd be very happy to have either one. I think I'd take Bernie, everything else being equal, which it obviously isn't, since I'd usually choose fewer outs over more power. But I think there's a case for each, depending on how much power vs. on base ability the team already has.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Player A, regardless of what your team is lacking. OPB is slightly more valuable than slugging.
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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    I want whichever guy K's the most.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    I want whichever guy K's the most.
    Good choice. He'd be a late-count hitter who saw more pitches and therefore burned up the opposing pitching staff, benefitting himself and the rest of the team.
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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Good choice. He'd be a late-count hitter who saw more pitches and therefore burned up the opposing pitching staff, benefitting himself and the rest of the team.
    The more I think about it, the more I agree with Raisor. I want to see the Reds K even more this year and still lead the league in runs scored. If they can break the all-time K record and runs scored record in the same year, that would be awesome. It will drive lots of people completely bananas.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Well, first off these numbers don't seem to jive with me. For Player A to get an OBP of 0.400, he would have to be hit by a lot of pitches, well over 30, I think. But, for fun, just using the H, 2B, 3B, HR, and BB numbers I calculated the weights for singles, doubles, triples, homers, and walks and got an estimation for the runs.

    R_hat=0.1889*1B+0.7083*2B+0.9901*3B+1.3166*HR+0.23 29*BB

    (not bad quick and dirty estimation with a correlation coefficient of 0.9498)

    Using this Player A's runs estimate is 82.13, while player B's is 88.93. So I pick player B.

    (And yes, I have problems. )

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Good choice. He'd be a late-count hitter who saw more pitches and therefore burned up the opposing pitching staff, benefitting himself and the rest of the team.
    Wouldn't pitches per plate appearance be a more accurate reflection than Ks? There are hitters who see a lot of pitches but don't K a lot.

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by rdiersin
    Well, first off these numbers don't seem to jive with me. For Player A to get an OBP of 0.400, he would have to be hit by a lot of pitches, well over 30, I think. But, for fun, just using the H, 2B, 3B, HR, and BB numbers I calculated the weights for singles, doubles, triples, homers, and walks and got an estimation for the runs.

    R_hat=0.1889*1B+0.7083*2B+0.9901*3B+1.3166*HR+0.23 29*BB

    (not bad quick and dirty estimation with a correlation coefficient of 0.9498)

    Using this Player A's runs estimate is 82.13, while player B's is 88.93. So I pick player B.

    (And yes, I have problems. )
    Player A has 150 hits and 50 BB = 200 /500 = .400??? Correct???

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Newman4
    Player A has 150 hits and 50 BB = 200 /500 = .400??? Correct???

    Ah, no, that's the problem

    OBP=(H+BB+HBP)/(AB+BB+HBP+SF)

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    Re: Which Player Would You Rather Have?

    I want whoever is scrappier. And if they are a middle infielder or a catcher, all the better.

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