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    Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    This is not the batting order, just whom I would start on a regular basis:
    LF: Jr.
    CF: Freel
    RF: Kearns
    3B: Encarnacion
    SS: Lopez
    2B: Phillips
    1B: Dunn
    C: Whomever

    What does everyone think? Let's face it, Dunn has to become a 1B and Freel needs to be in the lineup.


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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Yes. I agree completely. Makes the bench better as well.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by 44Magnum
    This is not the batting order, just whom I would start on a regular basis:
    LF: Jr.
    CF: Freel
    RF: Kearns
    3B: Encarnacion
    SS: Lopez
    2B: Phillips
    1B: Dunn
    C: Whomever

    What does everyone think? Let's face it, Dunn has to become a 1B and Freel needs to be in the lineup.
    That's just dandy but it is highly unlikely that Dunn is going to move to 1st and Jr. to LF. If they don't then the $64K question is what do you do with Freel and Phillips?
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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    I think everyone sees it but I am not sure the Reds will. Plus Hatteberg is much worse than I expected at first. He almost trips over himself every time he has to adjust to a throw. He makes Casey look like Hernandez.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    The bench would be strengthened with Aurillia and Hatte. Maybe they can package Womack and a catcher for a pitcher as well.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    I think everyone sees it but I am not sure the Reds will. Plus Hatteberg is much worse than I expected at first. He almost trips over himself every time he has to adjust to a throw. He makes Casey look like Hernandez.
    Party line is that he's better than Dunn. I doubt the Reds are going to all of a sudden put Dunn back at 1st after all they said about Mr. Hat's defense being better than Dunn's in ST - although with the incuriousness of the media here they may not have to do any 'splaining.
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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    Party line is that he's better than Dunn. I doubt the Reds are going to all of a sudden put Dunn back at 1st after all they said about Mr. Hat's defense being better than Dunn's in ST
    and Billy Beane referred to him as "a pickin' machine". After watching him play I now realize it was sarcasm(in Billy's case it may have been salemanship).

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by 44Magnum
    This is not the batting order, just whom I would start on a regular basis:
    LF: Jr.
    CF: Freel
    RF: Kearns
    3B: Encarnacion
    SS: Lopez
    2B: Phillips
    1B: Dunn
    C: Whomever

    What does everyone think? Let's face it, Dunn has to become a 1B and Freel needs to be in the lineup.
    Yup, that's pretty much the deal right there. I think the chances of it happening are slim though. Personalities and egos enter into it for players and management. You may have to keep Jr. in CF to keep him happy and jerking Dunn between 1B and LF wouldn't help his morale any either.

    I'd love to see it happen.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    I agree with that lineup completely. Dunn has played first base before, and I do not recall that he was especially bad there. I have also seen Hatteburg for several games now...and he IS especially bad there. The Reds would improve their defense and offense both by moving Griffey to left field, opening up center for Freel (maybe even bringing Denorfia back up and giving him a little playing time there as well), and letting Phillips hopefully become the second baseman that his potential says he can be. I would also trade LaRue for another decent pitcher, put Belisle in the starting rotation, and either move Williams to the bullpen, the DL, or to Louisville. This would all help a lot.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R
    That's just dandy but it is highly unlikely that Dunn is going to move to 1st and Jr. to LF. If they don't then the $64K question is what do you do with Freel and Phillips?
    When that happens, Freel goes to second, and Phillips becomes super-sub.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    I like those defensive positions, to go a step further...

    CF: Freel
    SS: Lopez
    LF: Griffey
    1B: Dunn
    RF: Kearns
    3B: EE
    2B: Phillips
    C: LaRue/Valintin/Ross


    I believe that this would make our defense better, especially since the IF would be throwing to a 6 ft. 6 target with Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    It should be about winning. I think most players would be willing to do what it takes to try to get into the playoff picture because that sure makes the season a lot more fun.

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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    and Billy Beane referred to him as "a pickin' machine". After watching him play I now realize it was sarcasm(in Billy's case it may have been salemanship).
    Actually I believe it was one of the coaches - Ron Washington - who referred to him like that. I think it was to build his confidence since he wasn't a natural 1B and took some time to get acclimated over there. I don't think anyone ever thought he was particularly good.
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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie
    When that happens, Freel goes to second, and Phillips becomes super-sub.
    You sure it won't be the other way around?
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    Re: Lineup proposal when Jr. returns

    Anyone concerned with Freel's throwing arm in center?


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