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    Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

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    SAN DIEGO -- New York Mets broadcaster Keith Hernandez's comment that women "don't belong in the dugout" drew criticism Sunday from San Diego Padres manager Bruce Bochy, who supported the female member of his training staff and said he was surprised her gender even came up.

    Hernandez made the remark during the second inning of New York's 8-1 victory in San Diego on Saturday night. Mike Piazza homered for the Padres and exchanged a high-five in the dugout with 33-year-old Kelly Calabrese, the Padres' massage therapist.

    "Who is the girl in the dugout, with the long hair?" Hernandez said. "What's going on here? You have got to be kidding me. Only player personnel in the dugout."

    Hernandez found out later in the broadcast that Calabrese was with the Padres training staff.

    "I won't say that women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout," Hernandez said.

    Hernandez, a former Mets first baseman and "Seinfeld" guest star, then laughed and said: "You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there -- always have."

    Bochy said before San Diego's 7-4 win over New York on Sunday that he did not hear what Hernandez said but was told about it -- and was not amused.

    "Kelly is a part of this ballclub," Bochy said. "She's a part of the training staff. I don't know the actual comments, I just heard about it, but she's been here for a while and played a major role with this club in getting guys ready to play a ballgame."

    Calabrese said she was flabbergasted by Hernandez's comments.

    "It amazes me that somebody of that caliber that has obviously played the game before and is in front of an audience of millions of people would say something like that," she said of Hernandez. "It's a little shocking. But you know what -- it happens. He not only discredited me as a person, but he discredited women."

    Calabrese then walked down the hallway to the Padres training room and joked, "Should I go in the kitchen now?"

    Hernandez had no comment after the game but said during the second inning of the broadcast Sunday that he was sorry if he offended anyone.
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    He's Keith Hernandez.
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    blame it on the magic loogy
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

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    "Women don't belong in the dugout."

    Isn't that what Hernandez used to say to Gary Carter?
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    Reeee-jected!
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    33-year-old Kelly Calabrese, the Padres' massage therapist.

    "Kelly is a part of this ballclub," Bochy said. "She's a part of the training staff. I don't know the actual comments, I just heard about it, but she's been here for a while and played a major role with this club in getting guys ready to play a ballgame."
    Okay... I'll ask: Does she give massages to players IN THE DUGOUT DURING GAMES? Or does she do the massage thing before and after games? I assume that the Pads have a regular trainer on the bench (ala Larry Starr for the older crowd). If the answer to question #1 is no, then she has no reason to be in the dugout IMO (her work is done in the clubhouse).

    But, to deflect the PC-crowd (if that is possible!), I do not know. If she does work in the dugout while the game is taking place, then she has every right to be there. If not, then she (like the GM of a team) has no right to be in the dugout during the game.

    Sounds like Hernandez' comment was made without knowing the answer to question 1. So that makes him (drum-roll, please)... politically incorrect.
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    But, to deflect the PC-crowd (if that is possible!)
    Why do you HATE women???

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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    "Nice game, pretty boy."

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    RFA- It's good to know some things never change.
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    I agree, she has no place in the dugout....

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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
    Okay... I'll ask: Does she give massages to players IN THE DUGOUT DURING GAMES? Or does she do the massage thing before and after games? I assume that the Pads have a regular trainer on the bench (ala Larry Starr for the older crowd). If the answer to question #1 is no, then she has no reason to be in the dugout IMO (her work is done in the clubhouse).

    But, to deflect the PC-crowd (if that is possible!), I do not know. If she does work in the dugout while the game is taking place, then she has every right to be there. If not, then she (like the GM of a team) has no right to be in the dugout during the game.

    Sounds like Hernandez' comment was made without knowing the answer to question 1. So that makes him (drum-roll, please)... politically incorrect.
    I have been on two teams that have had women as Asst. Trainers. Never an issue. She is probably a lot more qualified than what they have let on. I can't think of ANY reason why she would not be allowed on the bench. It's not like she's giving hitting tips and if she is... good for her. I'd love to hear what Katie Feeney or Kim Ng has to say about this.

    Rick Stowe does all of his work behind the scenes and you can't watch a game on Fox without seeing him sit on the Reds bench. I personally do not care for Rick but I would not have a problem, nor should anyone else, with him sitting on the bench during a game.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDonkey44
    I agree, she has no place in the dugout....
    She SHOULD be doing the laundry if she knew was was good for her...

    *running away*

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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    Is it fair to say that Keith Hernandez is now more famous for his appearances on Seinfeld than anything he did on the baseball field?
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    Re: Keith Hernandez: 'Women Don't Belong In Dugout'

    I think Keith Hernandez needs to engage his brain *before* speaking instead of afterwards.

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