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    Do you remember?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250502117

    Today's the one year anniversary. A lot has changed since that dreadful day.

    Edmonds, Mabry cap biggest 9th-inning rally in Cards history

    CINCINNATI (AP) -- Jim Edmonds considered bunting but then changed his mind and hit a three-run homer. John Mabry just tried to put the ball in play -- but put it over the center field wall for the go-ahead runs.

    The greatest ninth-inning comeback in St. Louis Cardinals history was made of odd moments.

    Edmonds' two-out homer off Danny Graves got the seemingly down-and-out Cardinals within a run, and Mabry's first homer of the season completed a seven-run rally for a 10-9 victory over the crestfallen Cincinnati Reds on Monday night.

    "It was like an ugly game gone uglier," Edmonds said. "It was just a wild game."

    One that neither the Reds nor their 15,961 booing fans will soon forget. Cincinnati hadn't blown a six-run lead in the ninth since June 29, 1952, when an 8-2 advantage turned into a 9-8 loss to the Cubs.

    "That's what you've got to do, but it's not easy to think about during the night," Reds manager Dave Miley said, staring straight ahead as he tried to put it behind him. "It's not easy to give a big-league game away, but we did."

    Until the ninth, they thought they were the ones getting the breaks.

    Ken Griffey Jr.'s disputed homer -- a drive that hit the top of the wall and bounced back -- helped Cincinnati pull ahead 9-3 after eight innings. The Cardinals then sent 12 batters to the plate in a topsy-turvy ninth that consisted of four singles, two walks, two homers and an error.

    David Weathers walked the first two batters and let in the first two runs. Graves (1-1) came on to face Edmonds, who came to the plate thinking he just needed to get on base.

    "I was thinking about bunting, honestly," Edmonds said. "I looked at the scoreboard and we were down four and I'm the third run. He [Graves] doesn't give up too many runs to us."

    On Graves' third pitch, Edmonds got a sloppy breaking ball and hit it deep into the seats for his sixth homer. Mark Grudzielanek then hit a ball through first baseman Sean Casey, who got an error, and Mabry hit one over the wall in center.

    "Nobody wants to make that last out," Mabry said. "That's what it comes down to."

    The fans booed Graves as he walked off the field after his first blown save in nine chances. The Reds have blown leads of four, five, and now six runs since last Wednesday.

    "It's frustrating, but what's even more frustrating is hearing the fans boo you in your own ballpark," Graves said. "We're out there trying the best we can. That's not the first time it's happened, and as long as I'll be playing, it won't be the last."

    The Reds appeared to have the game well in hand after they scored four runs in the eighth, which ended with Randy Flores (1-0) striking out Adam Dunn. Julian Tavarez closed out the Cardinals' comeback win by pitching the ninth for his second save.

    The NL Central leaders went 14-5 against the Reds last season and have won two of three this year. All the Reds could win on Monday was a home-run dispute.

    Griffey had failed to hit a homer in his first 79 at-bats, the longest drought of his career to start a season. He broke it with a shot in Milwaukee on Saturday that barely cleared the wall in center.

    His second homer of the season didn't even make it that far.

    Griffey led off the sixth with a drive that landed on the yellow padding atop the wall in center and bounced back. The umpires ruled the ball was in play, with Griffey stopping at second for a double. Then the crew huddled and decided it was a homer -- the 503rd of Griffey's career.

    The umpiring crew was led by Ed Montague, a 30-year veteran who worked home plate for the All-Star Game last year and Game 1 of the World Series, when Boston beat St. Louis. Montague said the crew was split on whether the ball had hit the top of the wall and bounced over.

    Montague thought it had hit the wall, continued over to a grassy slope and bounced back onto the field.

    "To me, it hit the grass and came back," Montague said. "That's what I got."

    Edmonds argued briefly and then watched the torment continue for starter Chris Carpenter. First baseman Albert Pujols' errant throw extended the inning, setting up Rich Aurilia's sacrifice fly and Jason LaRue's two-run double for a 5-2 lead.

    Dunn hit a solo homer in the eighth off Carmen Cali, and Aurilia had an RBI double off the wall in center as the Reds pulled away with another four-run spree.

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    Husker Du?
    Get your nunchucks and the keys to your dad's car. I know where we can get a gun

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    Re: Do you remember?

    With the lineup today thrown out by the Cards, does Larussa think he can repeat this???

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    I'd rather not relive that horror which I witnessed personally.

    I'd rather remember this, were I alive then

    1917 - The Cubs lefthander Hippo Vaughn and righthander Fred Toney of the Reds toe the mound in Chicago for a one-of-a-kind game. At the end of nine innings, both pitchers have no-hitters. With one out in the top of the tenth and men on second and third, Jim Thorpe hits a swinging bunt near the mound. Vaughn picks it up and throws home, but catcher Art Wilson freezes the ball hits his chest protector, and Larry Kopf slides in safe for the only run. Fred Toney sets the Cubs down in order and has the fourth ten-inning no-hitter to date.
    Jim Thorpe no less!

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    My wife's maiden name is Toney and Fred was her uncle though I am not sure how many greats were in front of his uncle. When we first met and she found out how crazy I was about the Reds, she told me about him and I was like yeah right, but she truly is related to him. So I have a special place for him in my heart for ole' Fred. And usually a special place for him on my What If Sports Reds related teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalMorrisRules
    My wife's maiden name is Toney and Fred was her uncle though I am not sure how many greats were in front of his uncle. When we first met and she found out how crazy I was about the Reds, she told me about him and I was like yeah right, but she truly is related to him. So I have a special place for him in my heart for ole' Fred. And usually a special place for him on my What If Sports Reds related teams.
    There's a manager down at the Frisch's in Winton Place whose last name is Rousch. I said something about the ballplayer and he said he was his grandmother's 2nd cousin. Go figure.

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    Re: Do you remember?

    Danny Graves was at the height of his suckitude that day.

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    That game never happened. Never. It was a bad dream. And it's bad luck to bring up my bad dream on a gameday...

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    That was a fun game thread..nobody could believe what was happening.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Do you remember?

    Who knows, if that game had never happened OB might still be here.

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    Not a day goes by that I don't thank God that Graves is no longer a Red
    PDM

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    mother's day massacre was worse for me.
    aught 2. I'll never forget it.
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    Game Played on Sunday, May 12, 2002 (D) at Cinergy Field
    
    STL N    0  0  0    0  3  2    0  5  0  -  10 14  0
    CIN N    6  2  0    0  0  0    0  0  0  -   8  9  1
    
    BATTING
    
    St. Louis Cardinals   AB   R   H RBI      BB  SO      PO   A
    Vina 2b                4   1   2   1       0   0       2   2
    Drew rf                5   1   2   4       0   0       1   0
    Pujols 3b              3   0   1   0       0   1       1   1
      Matthews p           0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Crudale p            0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Perez ph             1   0   0   0       0   1       0   0
      Stechschulte p       1   0   0   0       0   1       0   0
      Isringhausen p       0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
    Edmonds cf             5   0   0   0       0   4       3   0
    Martinez 1b            4   1   1   0       1   0      11   2
    Renteria ss            5   2   2   0       0   0       1   3
    Robinson lf            4   2   2   1       0   0       0   0
    Marrero c              4   1   2   1       0   1       7   2
    T. Smith p             0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Hackman p            1   0   0   0       0   0       0   1
      Veres p              0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Polanco ph,3b        3   2   2   3       0   0       1   2
    Totals                40  10  14  10       1   8      27  13
    
    FIELDING - 
    DP: 2. Martinez-Marrero-Martinez, Polanco-Martinez-Polanco-Martinez-Vina-Polanco.
    
    BATTING - 
    2B: Vina 2 (12,off Dessens,off Graves); Martinez (5,off Dessens); Polanco (4,off
    Graves).
    HR: Drew (5,8th inning off Graves 1 on 2 out).
    HBP: Vina (3,by Dessens).
    Team LOB: 5.
    
    Cincinnati Reds       AB   R   H RBI      BB  SO      PO   A
    Guerrero 2b,ss         5   0   0   0       0   0       1   4
    Larkin ss              2   2   2   0       0   0       0   1
      Dawkins ss           2   0   0   0       0   0       1   0
      Brower p             0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Casey ph             1   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
    Encarnacion cf         4   2   1   0       1   1       1   0
    Kearns rf              4   0   0   0       0   2       3   0
    Dunn 1b                2   1   0   0       2   1      11   0
    Boone 3b               3   1   2   2       0   0       0   4
    LaRue c                4   1   2   2       0   0       8   0
    Taylor lf              3   1   1   4       0   0       2   0
      White p              0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Graves p             0   0   0   0       0   0       0   0
      Walker ph,2b         1   0   1   0       0   0       0   1
    Dessens p              1   0   0   0       1   0       0   1
      Clark lf             2   0   0   0       0   1       0   0
    Totals                34   8   9   8       4   5      27  11
    
    FIELDING - 
    DP: 1. Boone-Guerrero-Dunn.
    E: Dunn (1).
    
    BATTING - 
    2B: Larkin (6,off T. Smith).
    HR: Taylor (2,1st inning off T. Smith 3 on 2 out).
    HBP: Boone (3,by T. Smith).
    IBB: Dunn (2,by Hackman).
    Team LOB: 4.
    
    BASERUNNING - 
    SB: Encarnacion (7,2nd base off Hackman/Marrero); Boone (6,2nd base off Crudale/Marrero).
    
    PITCHING
    
    St. Louis Cardinals   IP     H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR
    T. Smith               1     5   8   8   3   1   1
    Hackman                2     2   0   0   1   0   0
    Veres                  1     0   0   0   0   0   0
    Matthews               0     1   0   0   0   0   0
    Crudale                2     0   0   0   0   0   0
    Stechschulte W(4-1)    2     1   0   0   0   3   0
    Isringhausen SV(8)     1     0   0   0   0   1   0
    Totals                 9     9   8   8   4   5   1
    
    Cincinnati Reds       IP     H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR
    Dessens                5    10   5   4   0   4   0
    White                  2.2   1   2   2   1   2   0
    Graves L(1-1)          0.1   3   3   3   0   1   1
    Brower                 1     0   0   0   0   1   0
    Totals                 9    14  10   9   1   8   1
    
    T. Smith faced 2 batters in the 2nd inning
    Matthews faced 1 batter in the 5th inning
    Dessens faced 4 batters in the 6th inning
    HBP: T. Smith (1,Boone); Dessens (3,Vina).
    IBB: Hackman (3,Dunn).
    
    Umpires: Larry Vanover, Angel Hernandez, Laz Diaz, Randy Marsh
    
    Time of Game: 3:26   Attendance: 20622
    
    Starting Lineups:
    
       St. Louis Cardinals           Cincinnati Reds          
    1. Vina                2b        Guerrero            2b
    2. Drew                rf        Larkin              ss
    3. Pujols              3b        Encarnacion         cf
    4. Edmonds             cf        Kearns              rf
    5. Martinez            1b        Dunn                1b
    6. Renteria            ss        Boone               3b
    7. Robinson            lf        LaRue               c
    8. Marrero             c         Taylor              lf
    9. T. Smith            p         Dessens             p
    
    CARDINALS 1ST: Vina grounded out (pitcher to first); Drew
    grounded out (shortstop to first); Pujols singled to center;
    Edmonds struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 0.
    
    REDS 1ST: Guerrero grounded out (second to first); Larkin
    singled to center; Encarnacion walked [Larkin to second]; Kearns
    struck out; Dunn walked [Larkin to third, Encarnacion to
    second]; Boone was hit by a pitch [Larkin scored, Encarnacion to
    third, Dunn to second]; LaRue singled [Encarnacion scored, Dunn
    to third, Boone to second]; Taylor homered [Dunn scored, Boone
    scored, LaRue scored]; Dessens walked; Guerrero popped to third
    in foul territory; 6 R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 6.
    
    CARDINALS 2ND: Martinez grounded out (second to first); Renteria
    flied to center; Robinson lined to first; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. 
    Cardinals 0, Reds 6.
    
    REDS 2ND: Larkin doubled to left; Encarnacion singled to left
    [Larkin to third]; HACKMAN REPLACED T. SMITH (PITCHING);
    Encarnacion stole second; Kearns grounded out (pitcher to
    first); Dunn was walked intentionally; Boone singled [Larkin
    scored, Encarnacion to third, Dunn to second]; LaRue singled to
    left [Encarnacion scored, Dunn to third, Boone to second];
    Taylor grounded into a double play (first to catcher to first)
    [Dunn out at home]; 2 R, 4 H, 0 E, 2 LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 3RD: DAWKINS REPLACED LARKIN (PLAYING SS); Marrero
    flied to right; Hackman grounded out (third to first); Vina
    doubled; Drew grounded out (first unassisted); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1
    LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 3RD: Dessens popped to second; Guerrero grounded out
    (shortstop to first); Dawkins popped to second; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0
    LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 4TH: Pujols grounded out (third to first); Edmonds was
    called out on strikes; Martinez flied to left; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0
    LOB.  Cardinals 0, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 4TH: VERES REPLACED HACKMAN (PITCHING); Encarnacion
    grounded out (shortstop to first); Kearns grounded out (third to
    first); Dunn popped to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. 
    Cardinals 0, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 5TH: Renteria singled to right; Robinson singled
    [Renteria to third]; Marrero struck out; POLANCO BATTED FOR
    VERES; Polanco singled to right [Renteria scored, Robinson to
    third]; Vina was hit by a pitch [Polanco to second]; Drew
    singled to center [Robinson scored, Polanco scored, Vina to
    second]; Pujols struck out; Edmonds flied to left; 3 R, 4 H, 0
    E, 2 LOB.  Cardinals 3, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 5TH: POLANCO STAYED IN GAME (PLAYING 3B); MATTHEWS REPLACED
    PUJOLS (PITCHING); Boone singled; CRUDALE REPLACED MATTHEWS
    (PITCHING); Boone stole second; LaRue hit into a double play
    (third to first) [Boone out at third (third to first to second
    to third)]; Taylor flied to right; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. 
    Cardinals 3, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 6TH: Martinez doubled to right; Renteria singled to
    right [Martinez to third, Renteria to second (error by Dunn)];
    Robinson singled to left [Martinez scored, Renteria to third];
    Marrero singled to left [Renteria scored (unearned), Robinson to
    second]; WHITE REPLACED TAYLOR (PITCHING); CLARK REPLACED
    DESSENS (PLAYING LF); Polanco grounded into a double play (third
    to second to first) [Robinson to third, Marrero out at second];
    Vina flied to right; 2 R, 4 H, 1 E, 1 LOB.  Cardinals 5, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 6TH: Clark flied to center; Guerrero grounded out (first
    unassisted); Dawkins flied to center; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. 
    Cardinals 5, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 7TH: Drew grounded out (second to first); PEREZ BATTED
    FOR CRUDALE; Perez was called out on strikes; Edmonds struck
    out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Cardinals 5, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 7TH: STECHSCHULTE REPLACED PEREZ (PITCHING); Encarnacion
    grounded out (shortstop to first); Kearns struck out; Dunn
    struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Cardinals 5, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 8TH: Martinez walked; Renteria flied to right;
    Robinson forced Martinez (second to shortstop); Marrero singled
    to left [Robinson to second]; GRAVES REPLACED WHITE (PITCHING);
    Polanco doubled to left [Robinson scored, Marrero scored]; Vina
    doubled to right [Polanco scored]; Drew homered [Vina scored];
    Stechschulte struck out; 5 R, 4 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Cardinals 10,
    Reds 8.
    
    REDS 8TH: Boone flied to center; LaRue popped to catcher in foul
    territory; WALKER BATTED FOR GRAVES; Walker singled to center;
    Clark struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB.  Cardinals 10, Reds 8.
    
    CARDINALS 9TH: GUERRERO CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING SS); WALKER
    STAYED IN GAME (PLAYING 2B); BROWER REPLACED DAWKINS (PITCHING);
    Edmonds struck out; Martinez grounded out (second to first);
    Renteria grounded out (third to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. 
    Cardinals 10, Reds 8.
    
    REDS 9TH: ISRINGHAUSEN REPLACED STECHSCHULTE (PITCHING); On a
    bunt Guerrero grounded out (catcher to first); CASEY BATTED FOR
    BROWER; Casey grounded out (first unassisted); Encarnacion
    struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB.  Cardinals 10, Reds 8.
    
    Final Totals      R   H   E  LOB
     Cardinals       10  14   0    5
     Reds             8   9   1    4
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    That article made me sick. Even thinking of Danny Graves in a Reds uniform is enough to do that. He blew that game and he was still worried about the fans only?
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    BOOOOOOO DANNY GRAVES!!!
    Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.

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    The '02 Mother's Day massacre, Ochre? I was AT that one. My God. And had driven up from Memphis for the privilege of being there...later, I learned just to hit my head with a ballpein hammer for similar effect...


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