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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centralchamps05
    It's not just the Reds. I scanned the box scores for last nights games and most had less than 20,000--and that included the O's in Camden Yards--where 35,000 plus a couple of years ago was the norm.
    That's because they have sucked wind for the past seasons.
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    2006 - Attendance  		Home  			Road  			Overall
    
    RNK 	TEAM 	GMS 	TOTAL 	AVG 	PCT 	GMS 	AVG 	PCT 	GMS 	AVG 	PCT
    1	NY Yankees	14	678,213	48,443	84.3	17	36,191	78.4	31	41,724	81.4
    2	LA Dodgers	19	836,770	44,040	78.6	14	28,943	68.8	33	37,635	75.1
    3	LA Angels	14	580,330	41,452	92.0	21	23,665	50.9	35	30,780	67.0
    4	St. Louis	19	763,018	40,158	85.7	16	25,927	64.4	35	33,652	76.8
    5	NY Mets		18	705,241	39,180	68.3	15	35,664	80.1	33	37,582	72.9
    6	Chicago Cubs	14	545,994	38,999	94.8	19	33,866	74.9	33	36,044	82.9
    7	San Francisco	17	633,077	37,239	89.6	17	33,119	69.0	34	35,179	78.6
    8	Boston		16	580,384	36,274	100.3	17	33,775	70.0	33	34,986	82.5
    9	Atlanta		11	377,542	34,322	68.5	22	31,589	65.8	33	32,500	66.7
    10	Houston		18	588,984	32,721	79.9	16	27,851	59.7	34	30,429	69.8
    11	Chicago Sox	19	618,788	32,567	80.2	14	26,031	59.9	33	29,794	71.3
    12	San Diego	21	664,038	31,620	74.4	13	26,274	56.4	34	29,576	67.1
    13	Texas		21	625,426	29,782	60.6	14	23,064	51.5	35	27,095	57.2
    14	Philadelphia	21	602,341	28,682	65.9	11	25,508	57.3	32	27,591	62.9
    15	Toronto		20	533,352	26,667	52.8	13	34,835	79.2	33	29,885	62.3
    16	Seattle		22	570,112	25,914	54.2	14	26,823	62.9	36	26,267	57.4
    17	Washington	13	327,005	25,154	55.6	21	28,252	61.7	34	27,067	59.4
    18	Colorado	17	424,049	24,944	49.4	18	24,847	56.0	35	24,894	52.6
    19	Baltimore	20	492,632	24,631	51.1	15	30,122	64.0	35	26,984	56.6
    20	Cleveland	14	337,864	24,133	55.6	21	23,183	54.0	35	23,563	54.6
    21	Arizona		17	406,606	23,918	48.8	17	30,741	67.4	34	27,329	57.8
    22	Milwaukee	17	378,925	22,289	52.6 	17	37,903	79.4	34	30,096	66.8
    23	Cincinnati	16	354,936	22,183	52.7	18	28,864	63.6	34	25,720	58.7
    24	Minnesota	16	350,338	21,896	45.0	18	25,017	56.7	34	23,548	50.9
    25	Pittsburgh	15	322,604	21,506	56.1	20	29,802	66.8	35	26,247	62.6
    26	Oakland		17	361,732	21,278	48.7	16	27,316	57.7	33	24,206	53.3
    27	Detroit		14	297,607	21,257	53.0	20	25,925	55.8	34	24,003	54.7
    28	Tampa Bay	14	250,830	17,916	40.9	21	26,946	56.6	35	23,334	50.7
    29	Kansas City	16	266,479	16,654	40.8	16	26,968	59.5	32	21,811	50.7
    30	Florida		16	192,192	12,012	33.1	15	31,730	71.6	31	21,553	53.6

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    Re: What is up With Our Fans?????

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski
    I agree the management of the team has not been good in recent years. However, I refuse to continuously blame management/ownership for poor attendance.

    The management and ownership were replaced this year. That alone should result in a spike in attendance. The fact that we are 10 games over .500 in May and in first place should also supplement attendance.
    Why not blame them? It's very much their fault.

    This team has gone so long without being good that a lot of what otherwise would be the hardcore fanbase has fallen off into cynicism and doubt -- that includes me. If I had an opportunity to lay every dollar and posession I own (albeit not much) on the Reds misssing the post-season this year, I'd do it 100 times over. That's the level of confidence I have in this team to continue it's pace, and I know I'm not the only one out there.

    It doesn't stop me from going to the ballpark, but it certainly stops other people from going. Not everyone is up for dropping their hard-earned money down on what they believe is a loser franchise and a lost cause. The team may be "winning" but it's readily apparent to me, and others, that they're not going to stay winning with the team they have. You think any knowledgeable baseball fan is going to open the paper, look at the probables and say: "Hmmm, I think I'll go down to the game since Dave Williams/Elizardo Ramirez/Brandon Claussen is pitching?"

    Further, I think the ballpark is a small factor as well. If I had to choose a word to describe watching games at the Great American Ballpark, it'd be: Generic. I can't pinpoint anything about the stadium I dislike, but I can't point to anything about it I like either. The atmosphere is so-so, the location is so-so, the actual edifice is utilitarian, and the food is mediocre (here's an area where the Reds should've done their homework on -- it's great to have local restaraunts serving food at the game, but it's better to have great food you can ONLY get at the ballpark, like the BBQ pits on Eutaw Street at Camden Yards).
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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Here's a related question for the local folks. Has there been any change in the marketing of the team? It's been said in years past here that it's been a long time since anyone there has seen the Reds advertise on a billboard. Where has the team been advertising lately? Has there been any more advertising than under the previous regime?

    Seems to me like there needs to be some awareness-building in the minds of casual fans that change has taken place. Otherwise those who aren't paying attention and aren't going to games won't change their behavior.

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Weather, kids still in school, past performance, lack of marketing, gas prices, concession prices, ticket cost...all of these things are factors for sure but it all boils down to what Yogi said, "If the people don't want to come out to the ballpark, nobody's going to stop them."

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    I think right now the weather is playing a HUGE factor. I know for sure it is stopping 2 of my friends from attending tonights game. I'll be there, with jeans and 3 layers of shirts on. God I hate Ohio weather.
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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    I just want it to be known, I told everyone a roof (retractable?) should of been in the plans for the GAB park. But they did it on the cheap.

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA
    I just want it to be known, I told everyone a roof (retractable?) should of been in the plans for the GAB park. But they did it on the cheap.
    Blame the Bengals for spending all the money and the Reds for insisting the park HAD to be on the river, no room for the roof (unless they knocked the arena down)
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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Blame the Bengals for spending all the money and the Reds for insisting the park HAD to be on the river, no room for the roof (unless they knocked the arena down)
    A roof?

    Hahahahahhahaha like they need a roof in Ohio.

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Retractable roof
    Go Gators!

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    Re: What is up With Our Fans?????

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski
    Keep the excuses coming....
    Hey, I was there last night. Bought a 5 dollar ticket. Parked at Willie's Cafe in Covington and took the TANK across to the park. Spend 2 bucks for the bus ride, and 5 bucks for the ticket, and didn't buy any food or drink. Spent 20 bucks on gas from Richmond, IN. Grand total-$27.00. I like it. Wound up sitting down by the dugout by the end of the game because there were so few people there we never actually sat in those 5 dollar seats.

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA
    I just want it to be known, I told everyone a roof (retractable?) should of been in the plans for the GAB park. But they did it on the cheap.
    The low-tech solution...

    Totes is based in Cincinnati. Hand everyone an umbrella on the way in.

    Pay attention to the open sky

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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    The weather is stinking right now... waaaay cold and lots of rain (for the next 3-4 days). The good weather seems to be when the team is away.

    A roof? Nah, they don't need one.

    Truthfully, the crapola wether we are getting right now is very out of the norm for May in Cincinnati. The highs for the next several days are projected in the the 50's. Ugh! Can only imagine what it will be mid game, especially with the damp air.
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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    I will be toughing it out this weekend for both games. Doing my part anyway.
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    Re: Merged: Reds Fans Slow In Returning to Ballpark / What is up With Our Fans?

    Glad there is no roof on GAB!!!!!! I think it kills the atmosphere.........


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