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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    The pick should be pitching...pitching and more pitching.
    Why? The Reds argueably have more pitching in the lower minors than hitting, I mean after Votto and Bruce, it REALLY thins out. When you have a system as thin as the Reds, going BPA is the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    The pick should be pitching...pitching and more pitching.
    Which is fine, but just because they arent interested in Lincecum doesnt mean they arent interested in pitching. They just might not want something with him for whatever reason it is.

    Like Aronchis said, the position player depth of talent is well, not much at all.
    Jay Bruce
    Joey Votto
    then you have a bunch of guys who are hitting ok but are at levels they are a little old for.
    I wouldnt mind getting a guy who isnt a pitcher, but that guy is probably going to be Stubbs who I am not sure of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronchis
    Why? The Reds argueably have more pitching in the lower minors than hitting, I mean after Votto and Bruce, it REALLY thins out. When you have a system as thin as the Reds, going BPA is the best solution.
    I agree. The Reds need athletic players. Having athletes has really bolstered the infield. They need them in the outfield too. Catching in the system is thin. The only first base prospect is Votto, and some people don't think that highly of him.

    A lot depends on how the draft goes. I do not want to see them reaching for a pitcher who is not top 10 quality. I would rather see a position player, particularly an athlete like Stubbs (if he is worthy, which seems open to some question).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt
    Which is fine, but just because they arent interested in Lincecum doesnt mean they arent interested in pitching. They just might not want something with him for whatever reason it is.

    Like Aronchis said, the position player depth of talent is well, not much at all.
    Jay Bruce
    Joey Votto
    then you have a bunch of guys who are hitting ok but are at levels they are a little old for.
    I wouldnt mind getting a guy who isnt a pitcher, but that guy is probably going to be Stubbs who I am not sure of.
    I agree with you...I was talking about pitching b/c of the Stubbs prediction. I want college pitchers b/c our lineup is made up mostly of younger players right now and Kriv can keep at least most of them, we'll need some pitchers who will be ready quick. But if there was a bat there worthy of the pick, I wouldn't shy away from it. 2nd round could bring someone like Wes Hodges, who I would have no problem taking a shot on.

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    I agree with edabbs44. We can get position guys from our South American facility. I want dominate pitching at every level. When we bring up a pitcher from the minors he should be a ready and able starter thats at least a 1, 2, or number 3 type starter. Then I would worry about position players.

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    The Reds need to draft pitching. It's a lot easier to replace major league hitters then major league arms. Lets stock the system with arms and hope a few pan out for us.

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    College pitcher in the first round(Bard, Morrow, Linecum) and then maybe a high school bat in the second round.

    I wish they would change it to where you can trade draft picks. Hopefully they approve that before long.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    BA has their Top 100 Prospects list up for those of you who subscribe. Along with that, scouting reports for each of those guys.

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    I've wondered what happened to the slipping stock of Dallas Buck, the decreased velocity explains a lot. Still wouldn't be too depressed at all if one of the falling arms of Buck or Ian Kennedy could still be had with a second round pick for the Reds after a great first round choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    College pitcher in the first round(Bard, Morrow, Linecum) and then maybe a high school bat in the second round.

    I wish they would change it to where you can trade draft picks. Hopefully they approve that before long.
    I like Linecum and Morrow first, then Stubbs and Georgia Tech 3B Wes Hodges, whose stock has dropped but is a bigtime ballplayer who is just having an off year, and then Bard (who has disappointed me this year, sort of like Mark McCormick (Baylor) last year).
    That means the Reds probably end up with Stubbs - maybe in the second round they can get a live arm.

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    Toolsy OFs with K/BB issues worry me...especially when there are questions about how well they'll handle the transition to wood bats.

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    Does anyone have any feelings about globalizing the draft? I can't figure out why baseball wouldn't do this...if it isn't going to happen, Cincy has to get more involved in international signings. It is a quick fix for the almost barren farm system and gives great trading chips to active teams in the mkt. Look at the Yankees, how many joke prospects have they dealt to other teams that they signed? I know they gave us two of the worst, Aramboles and Melian. Here's one story out today...

    This year's most significant amateur signing may not come from what many consider a weak draft.

    Among the biggest prizes is a 16-year-old Dominican prospect with an attractive baseball pedigree.

    The Marlins are among the teams in the mix for Francisco Pena, the son of former Royals manager and Yankees coach Tony Pena. Like his former all-star father, Francisco is a catcher who already has drawn the attention of deep-pocketed teams like the Yankees and Mets.

    According to a source that has spoken with the Marlins, how long they stay in the running will depend on whether the bidding gets out of hand. The younger Pena is expected to command a seven-figure signing bonus.

    One Marlins player believes it's a reasonable price. Catcher Miguel Olivo is from the same province as the Pena family and knows Francisco well. When Olivo was in the American League and Pena managed the Royals, Olivo would run into Francisco in Kansas City.

    "I think he's worth more than [$1 million]," Olivo said. "If he was eligible for the draft here, for me he would be a first-rounder. Good arm. He throws almost as good as me, and he has good size. I knew from seeing him he would be a professional. His father would work him out. Tony Pena has baseball in his blood, and his kids are the same."

    Pena already has one son in pro ball. Tony Pena Jr. is a shortstop in the Braves system and made his major league debut earlier this season.

    If money doesn't eliminate the Marlins from contention, family ties might. The Braves may be a sleeper to land the 6-foot-2, 205-pound Pena, who some believe wants to play with his older brother.

    The Marlins, who are thin at the upper levels of the organization at catcher, do have one factor going for them. Albert Gonzalez, their new director of international operations, spent the previous 13 seasons in the Royals organization and has relationships with Pena and his son.

    The signing period for international players begins July 2.

    "If it turns into a bidding war, the smart thing to do is get out," said one baseball official who is following the situation. "He's a good kid and has got some ability. When the Yankees and Mets get in it ... you know how it is."

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    Re: MLB Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    Does anyone have any feelings about globalizing the draft? I can't figure out why baseball wouldn't do this...if it isn't going to happen, Cincy has to get more involved in international signings. It is a quick fix for the almost barren farm system and gives great trading chips to active teams in the mkt. Look at the Yankees, how many joke prospects have they dealt to other teams that they signed? I know they gave us two of the worst, Aramboles and Melian. Here's one story out today...
    During the last Labor talks this was one of the big issues. MLB and the players union studied it, realized the complications and burdens of it would be so widespread and cumbersome that they both dropped it, never to be brought up again. You won't see it happen in our lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19
    During the last Labor talks this was one of the big issues. MLB and the players union studied it, realized the complications and burdens of it would be so widespread and cumbersome that they both dropped it, never to be brought up again. You won't see it happen in our lifetime.
    I never understood why it would be such a big deal...the NBA has no problems.


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