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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    All teams give a health program to players when they leave for the winter. Hancock missed time last year with a back problem, weight is a major factor in back problems. The Resd cut the man because

    A. He didn't follow team policy and still drew a check

    B. A back injury could cause them to have to waste a spot on an injured player in the future.

    c. He is a late 20's RH without *much* stuff in a world full of them.

    Lots of teams have programs, lots of guys have been fat and gotten worse, it's the teams perogative to set policy and institute it, the surprise that they make and example out of players they see as fringe is almost as odd as the constant tracking of a guy who is essentially John Hudek.
    Bureaucracies love to make rules and follow them for no other reason than to follow them, too.

    But then this rule only applies to one player, in order to make an example. So it's not really a policy. It's just random. And if there's one thing that people who work below bosses disrespect more than a hardass, it's a capricious enforcer of the rules.

    A rule should reflect all those behaviors that benefit the team's winning.

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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    Mine points more at the culture of the team as a whole
    Yep. Probably needed to be done -- the team had the reputation of being soft.

    And Hancock may have needed the wake-up call in order to pitch as well as he has.

    Can't quantify this stuff, but people are people.
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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    Bureaucracies love to make rules and follow them for no other reason than to follow them, too.
    Sports is a business, they thought he was fat and expendable.

    What else is there to bellyache about?

    If the Reds magic carpet ride this season only induces sour grapes about this move then have at it. It's like playing stoop ball, back and forth, back and forth...

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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    And if there's one thing that people who work below bosses disrespect more than a hardass, it's a capricious enforcer of the rules.
    Yeah, I'm sure everybody in the Red organization is really upset about how things have gone under Castellini, Krivsky and Narron.

    Talk about dysfunction.
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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

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    Yeah, I'm sure everybody in the Red organization is really upset about how things have gone under Castellini, Krivsky and Narron.

    Talk about dysfunction.
    My issue is not with Castellini or Krivsky. It's with Narron.

    And if there's one thing in baseball more expendable than a chubby but effective reliever, it's a busybody field manager.

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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou

    What else is there to bellyache about?

    If the Reds magic carpet ride this season only induces sour grapes about this move then have at it. It's like playing stoop ball, back and forth, back and forth...
    Sour grapes?

    While everyone else was busy predicting 66 wins for the club, I said 81 wins--largely because of the newfound faith I had in Krivsky after the Arroyo move. I still stand behind that prediction (and I'm hoping for more).

    It's just that winning means making the right moves virtually all the time. There's very little room in this business for field manager ego.

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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    It's just that winning means making the right moves virtually all the time.
    When perfection is achieved let me know.

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    Re: 5/7/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Bureaucracies love to make rules and follow them for no other reason than to follow them, too.

    But then this rule only applies to one player, in order to make an example. So it's not really a policy. It's just random. And if there's one thing that people who work below bosses disrespect more than a hardass, it's a capricious enforcer of the rules.

    A rule should reflect all those behaviors that benefit the team's winning.
    How do you know its random? Are there other players that violated their workout/weight requirements and are still with the team? Isn't it possible that he was the only player cut for this specific reason? How would you or anybody else besides the one's that made the decision and the individual players know?
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