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    Buchholz getting lit up

    that BABIP normalizing hits home hard. Like I said after seeing him pitch in Cincy, he doesn't miss bats and his stuff is nothing special. He's better than the end of the Reds rotation but I honestly think his future is in the pen
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    With Kearns getting 4 hits and Bucky giving up 6 early runs, FCB is certainly having a bad night.

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns
    With Kearns getting 4 hits and Bucky giving up 6 early runs, FCB is certainly having a bad night.
    And Phillips might be getting on track with three hard hit balls today... he might go dig a hole.

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Dodgers give Tomko a 9-0 lead and he still leaves after 6.....
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by red-in-la
    Dodgers give Tomko a 9-0 lead and he still leaves after 6.....
    He threw 104 pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red-in-la
    Dodgers give Tomko a 9-0 lead and he still leaves after 6.....
    Just like Dodger fans.
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Why all the nitpicking on FCB? He's a great poster. I certainly don't agree with his opinion of Kearns, but he has his opinion and I respect that. I don't really see the need to pick on him.

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Buchholz has one bad start on a long west coast swing. Those never happen.

    I guess we should start writing Oswalt's obituary, too, after surrendering 7 runs in 4 1/3 innings in SF the other night.
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Buchholz has one bad start on a long west coast swing. Those never happen.

    I guess we should start writing Oswalt's obituary, too, after surrendering 7 runs in 4 1/3 innings in SF the other night.
    Go ahead and start writing Pettitte's obituary as well. :

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns
    With Kearns getting 4 hits and Bucky giving up 6 early runs, FCB is certainly having a bad night.
    Knowing Kearns' history of injuries and attitude, would you sign him to a multi-year deal--remember, he becomes a FA at the end of next year? He'll be 27, with a slightly above average career right fielder's OPS. Is that the kind of player you give many years to? I wouldn't. I'd be looking to cash him for something worth having the next five seasons, affordable, and most of all productive in his affordable years, unlike Kearns.

    I think it's great that he's producing; I can't think of better news--it means he might actually be worth something at the deadline for once.

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    I guess we should start writing Oswalt's obituary, too, after surrendering 7 runs in 4 1/3 innings in SF the other night.
    Except Oswalt is established and Bucholz is a rookie.
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Why all the nitpicking on FCB? He's a great poster. I certainly don't agree with his opinion of Kearns, but he has his opinion and I respect that. I don't really see the need to pick on him.
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by TC81190
    Except Oswalt is established and Bucholz is a rookie.
    So when rookies have one bad start that means they're doomed to suck for eternity? Seems a little backwards to me. Even with the bad start, his WHIP is 1.04--he's not stinking up the basepaths so far. Time will tell.

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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Even with the bad start, his WHIP is 1.04--he's not stinking up the basepaths so far. Time will tell.
    Buchholz doesn't miss enough bats to be successful in the long run as a starter, he needs at least a 50% rise in his K rate. My point was his early success was built on the smoke of a sub 15% BABIP. His BABIP is now 22% which indicates the regression to the mean is likely not complete.
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    Re: Buchholz getting lit up

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    Buchholz doesn't miss enough bats to be successful in the long run as a starter, he needs at least a 50% rise in his K rate. My point was his early success was built on the smoke of a sub 15% BABIP. His BABIP is now 22% which indicates the regression to the mean is likely not complete.
    I'm not ready to make any kind of judgment at this early point in his career as to how his BABIP is going to affect his career. Right now, I'm judging him on what he once had as stuff. But you and a lot of others say his stuff sucks, and I'm just going to have to take your word for it; I haven't seen him pitch in several years, but what he had then was great.

    And as far as Phillips goes, he's had one great week and one putrid week so far as a Red. Too early to say anyone's turned any kind of corner.
    Last edited by Falls City Beer; 05-11-2006 at 10:35 AM.


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