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    So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Here's my take in a nutshell: Dud-Vinci.

    Very disappointing. I don't know if it was just over-hyped or what...but it just wasn't all that.

    My buddy felt the same way. In fact, he nodded off once or twice during the film.

    Maybe it's just as simple as this: the book is always better than the movie and it's way true in this case. Don't get me wrong, it didn't totally suck, it just wasn't that good.

    I'll be interested to get opinions from people who see the movie and did not read the book. Maybe their take will be different.

    The book was great, IMO. The movie was just all over the place. The movie felt like the book on speed. My buddy agreed with me when I told him that if I hadn't read the book, I think that I would have been totally lost and clueless in that movie. It just seemed to jump all over the place...and at times it seemed more like a lecture on grail theory and symbolism rather than a movie. It just didn't work for me. I didn't feel like I ever got to know the characters.

    I'd give it 5, maybe 6 stars out of 10.

    Well, that's my rant. Post your reviews here after you've seen the flick.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Awwww man; I'm disappointed that you were disappointed. Ron Howard usually does such a great job too.

    Like you, I absolutely LOVED the book. I haven't seen the movie yet, but way back when the lead was announced, I was sorely disappointed in the choice. Don't get me wrong, I love Tom Hanks. But if I remember correctly (I read the book a couple years ago), his character is younger than Hanks and a bit more savvy than I've ever thought most of Hanks' characters to be.

    Oh well, I'll see it anyway, but probably wait for video.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    I posted my thoughts in the "Movie Reviews" thread, along with the other movies I've seen recently, but I enjoyed it. It was a fun popcorn flick. I think too many people will be going into this looking for some deep meaning or affirmation of truth. To me, this is just a modern day Indiana Jones searching for his Ark of the Covenant.

    Hanks did seem a bit stale at times, but at other times, he picked it up. Ian McKellen was good, as he is in most films. Movies are never as good as the books, you can never fit everything into a film.

    TB, it's been a few years since I read the book as well, but as I recall, Langdon was supposed to be in his forties.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    I haven't seen the movie yet, but way back when the lead was announced, I was sorely disappointed in the choice. Don't get me wrong, I love Tom Hanks. But if I remember correctly (I read the book a couple years ago), his character is younger than Hanks and a bit more savvy than I've ever thought most of Hanks' characters to be.
    I heard that Russell Crowe was the first choice to play Langdon and that they had to "settle" for Hanks. Don't know how true that is, but it's what I heard.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by max venable
    I heard that Russell Crowe was the first choice to play Langdon and that they had to "settle" for Hanks. Don't know how true that is, but it's what I heard.
    I heard that Crowe was the first choice as well, but that in order to get Ron Howard to direct, he wanted Hanks to star. Maybe that is settling...
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Another interesting fact is that before the book became as popular as it did, the producers of Fox's 24 had the okay to use the plot for the show's second season. When the book's popularity soared, they dropped the idea because it became apparent it would make more money as a movie.

    I'm actually glad that didn't happen. I don't know that 24 would have survived this long.
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    Saw the movie tonight, and I have never read the book. I thought the movie was pretty good and so did the 3 other people I saw it with. 2 of us had not read the book and the other 2 had and we all agreed that it was pretty good. None of us were blown away, but it was about what I expected.

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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by max venable
    Here's my take in a nutshell: Dud-Vinci.

    Very disappointing. I don't know if it was just over-hyped or what...but it just wasn't all that.
    And that is what a majority of movie reviews are saying too. It wasn't too well received at Cannes and around Europe.

    It needs good hype/PR in order to recover the monies invested.

    Ron Howard said that it's not about theology but entertainment. Ronnie may need to research what entertaining is.

    I'll wait till it comes out on DVD (around the time for Christmas sales), and rent it.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    The worst part of the movie was the trailer for Casino Royale
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    Very good point save, tell you the truth, I had happily forgot about that. GAC, I found the movie to be very entertaining and so did the group I was with. What I didnt get was why the church is so upset, it is a movie, if the church was such a strong structure I dont see why they are being so intimidated by a movie.

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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    My question is: why is it called Da Vinci Code? Isn't "Leonardo Code" much more appropriate? It would be like calling a movie made about me "The Of Philadelphia Code"

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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    My question is: why is it called Da Vinci Code? Isn't "Leonardo Code" much more appropriate? It would be like calling a movie made about me "The Of Philadelphia Code"

    I saw that movie, it was called the Philadephia Experiment. It was about your prediction that Kearns would disapear. Unlike the Da Vinci Code, we still don't know if that one is fact or fiction.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by kbrake
    What I didnt get was why the church is so upset, it is a movie, if the church was such a strong structure I dont see why they are being so intimidated by a movie.
    I'd have a hard time believing that someone could go see that movie and then have a crisis of faith. And FWIW, I don't think the church is intimidated at all by it. I just think that a lot of churches are trying to seize the opportunity to engage in spiritual converstations...but before this thread gets locked for being "religious," let's get back on track.

    Kbrake, did you read the book? I think I may have liked it better had I not read the book first...that is if I would have been able to follow it.
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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    Quote Originally Posted by kbrake
    What I didnt get was why the church is so upset, it is a movie, if the church was such a strong structure I dont see why they are being so intimidated by a movie.
    We're not. At least not us Protestants. And I don't think the average Catholic is either.

    What has "concerned" some is what Dan Brown has said....

    "While the book's characters and their actions are obviously not real, the artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals depicted in this novel all exist (for example, Leonardo Da Vinci's paintings, the Gnostic Gospels, Hieros Gamos, etc.). These real elements are interpreted and debated by fictional characters. While it is my belief that some of the theories discussed by these characters may have merit, each individual reader must explore these characters' viewpoints and come to his or her own interpretations. My hope in writing this novel was that the story would serve as a catalyst and a springboard for people to discuss the important topics of faith, religion, and history."

    Brown has been very coy or sly when asked to differentiate the fiction from the fact in his book. Which is understandable since he wouldn't do anything that might hurt sales.

    But many, many others, whose credentials on church history far surpasses Brown's, have shown that his research and presentation makes huge leaps and assumptions, while some are downright disproven. He seemed to have ignored that, and purposely, or else it wouldn't have made for an interesting and entertainng novel.

    Just like he says above, where "each individual must explore these characters' viewpoints and come to his or her own interpretation" - any individual who does so, at any in-depth length, will see it is pure fiction - an entertaining thriller to be sure - but that the Jesus-Mary Magdalene "rumors" are nothing new and have been around for centuries.

    So it is not a shock or intimidating at all to Christians.

    But I can see where it would be "eye opening" and catch the attention of non-believers who are not "rooted" in scripture, and have simply "surface" knowledge of Christianity.

    Example: last month I was sitting in the breakroom, and a female co-worker was finishing up reading the book. Knowing I'm a Christian she asked me how I could be so knowing what this book reveals.

    I simply asked her in what section did she get the book at the book store? Fiction maybe?

    I look forward to seeing the movie when it comes out on DVD. I've been watching /reading subject matter for the last 20+ years that attack and malign Christianity, and offer up all types of conspiracy theories.

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    Re: So I saw the movie today... (Da Vinci)

    I've noticed that the only good reviews for the film are coming from people who've read the book. If the film won't stand on its own, I think it's doomed to failure in this era where most people don't read books.


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