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    Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    I got to thinking with Bonds tying Ruth with his 714th homer, what hallowed records are there in baseball that won't be touched. 1) Nolan Ryan - 5714 strikeouts. Clemens is around 1200 k's behind and won't catch him unless he pitches till he's 50. 2) Walter Johnson - 110 shutouts. This one is not even close since no current player is even half way to this number. 3) Cy Young - 511. Since 300 is the magical number for wins for pitchers, this number is safe as well. 4) Rickey Henderson - 1406 stolen bases. The value of the stolen base has decreased in the last 10-15 years. 5) Sam Crawford - 309 triples. Only 2 current players have more than 92 triples and both of them are aging vets, Steve Finley (118) and Kenny Lofton (92). 6) Pete Rose - 4256 hits. Longevity and consistency is what is needed to break a record like this. Although many baseball historians thought Cobb's 4191 would stand, Rose bettered that and then some.

    Any other records you can think of that will never be passed?

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    Cal Ripken

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    Cy Young's most losses in a career...383, I think. Think about it. Average twenty losses per year for 19 years.

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    Number 1 has to be Henderson's 150 SB's in a year ... that will NEVER be broken. It might be 130 SB's, cant remember .... either way it won't be broken in todays game, it just wont happen.

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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    Cy Young's most losses in a career...383, I think. Think about it. Average twenty losses per year for 19 years.
    Same for his career wins

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    Joe Nuxhull.
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

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    Joe DiMaggio's 56-consecutive-game hitting streak will never be broken, IMO.

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    The only record, IMO, that will never, ever be broken is Cy Young's 511. The arrow of time is not going to reverse and allow pitchers to throw the requisite number of innings that this guy threw that allowed him to be eligible for those wins.

    All the others, while huge hurdles, aren't insurmountable. Maybe the 110 shutouts. That would be the next closest one. Edit: Yeah, I take that back. No way anybody ever gets 110 shutouts.

    So, IMO, there are two untouchable records.
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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered
    Joe Nuxhull.
    Yeah the youngest play ever to play in a game?

    How old was he 14 or 16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Joe DiMaggio's 56-consecutive-game hitting streak will never be broken, IMO.
    I can see that being broken. Not sure what would make it so impossible.

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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    Yeah the youngest play ever to play in a game?

    How old was he 14 or 16?
    In between. Fifteen. To paraphrase, Joe, imagine sitting in school one moment, then standing on the mound facing Stan Musial the next.
    This perhaps could be baseball's unbreakable record. Through the ages, we have found that no record is completely unbreakable - though some (Young) are darn near close

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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Adam Dunn 195 Ks.
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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Oh, how i wish i could find this book:
    Many years ago, I remember reading a book written in the late '50s about baseball's unbreakable records.
    These included:
    Ty Cobb's seasonal and career stolen base records.
    Ty Cobb's hit record.
    Lou Gehrig's consecutive game winning streak.
    Babe's seasonal and career home run record.
    The Babe's RBI record.
    George Sisler's seasonal hit record.
    Walter Johnson's career strikeout record.
    Bob Feller's seasonal strikeout record (after the turn of the century).
    It also stated the year of the career 300 game winner was dead. Of course, once Spahn and Wynn joined the club, many said they would be the last. When Carlton, Seaver, Niekro and Perry joined the club, many said they would be the last. Now that Clemens and Maddox have joined the club...you get the picture.

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    Re: Baseball records that WON'T be broken

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003
    Johnny Vander Meer

    This, coupled with Cy Young's 511 wins are the two "untouchables" imo.

    In order to break Johnny's record, a pitcher would have to throw 3 consecutive no-hitter's.


    Simply won't happen.


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