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    2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    I don't have stats, I don't know if its selective thinknig but I think there have been an AWFUL lot of late inning losses - games that were either tied late innings and we lost, or we blew a lead, or we lost in extras.

    1-2 versus Arizona
    2-1 versus Washington (Griffey's HR saved this series)
    0-3 versus Phillies
    1-2 versus Pirates
    1-2 versus Tigers

    How many games were tied or with a lead in late innings (7th and later) during this stretch that we lost? I know Weathers has THREE straight BS's.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Why?

    Becuase we simply haven't improved all that much from last year. We are not that good. We just aren't.

    I'd love to believe we are, the hot start in april was great, but didn't fool me. They got heart, they play hard, but they are just not there yet. They're a lot more fun to watch this year though. Just give it some time. Krivs is a man who seemingly knows what he's doing, he's made some shrewd and astute moves. But he's only been here 3-4 months. You can't wave a magic wand and have this team be a contender by adding 1 league average pitcher in Arroyo. Its gonna take a few more of those, an actual bullpen, and some consistency.

    Next year, after the draft, trade deadline, and offseason, I think we'll be in much better shape. Bank on it. And enjoy watching how Krivs and Cast turn around this once proud franchise.
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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Exactly.

    Enjoy being in the race for however long we are in it, and you just have to hope guys like BP, EE, Felipe, Kearns, Dunn, etc (all the young guys) keep improving.

    Hopefully we stay in the race, but I am not banking on it. Krivs knows what he is doing, he just needs a full off-season to do it. Don't worry our time will come, but for now just enjoy watching baseball.
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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    Exactly.

    Enjoy being in the race for however long we are in it, and you just have to hope guys like BP, EE, Felipe, Kearns, Dunn, etc (all the young guys) keep improving.

    Hopefully we stay in the race, but I am not banking on it. Krivs knows what he is doing, he just needs a full off-season to do it. Don't worry our time will come, but for know just enjoy watching baseball.
    Agreed. I want to believe that Kriv is searching for BP help and he will get it as long as it's out there. But I am enjoying the ride.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    Agreed. I want to believe that Kriv is searching for BP help and he will get it as long as it's out there. But I am enjoying the ride.
    It's not easy finding BP from outside the organization this early in the year because the majority of teams still think they have a shot at winning this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    It's not easy finding BP from outside the organization this early in the year because the majority of teams still think they have a shot at winning this year.
    Since it is our #1 need right now, he should still be looking. And if we aren't going to use Deno to our benefit, we should be dangling him to teams who could use him. NYY comes to mind, since all 3 OFs are hurting right now. Same with LA.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    You would get more by trading Griffey or Kearns the Deno.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    You would get more by trading Griffey or Kearns the Deno.
    No one will take on Grif. And no problem trading Kearns as long as we get some young, good pitching. Cannot be young OR good. Has to be both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    No one will take on Grif. And no problem trading Kearns as long as we get some young, good pitching. Cannot be young OR good. Has to be both.
    The Yanks would give you something decent for Griffey.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    The Yanks would give you something decent for Griffey.
    They don't have much and they are hanging on to it, they also have no need for JR, they are already loaded down with OF's who need to DH.
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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    They don't have much and they are hanging on to it, they also have no need for JR, they are already loaded down with OF's who need to DH.
    Not if he would agree to move to the corner outfielder. I doubt he would agree to New York anyway since he doesn't like the Yanks, and he would have to switch positions.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    I think Boston would be interested in Griff. just to keep NY from getting him. And I think the Angels would take him to. The AL is the place to shop JR. if you were going to do it.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    The Yanks would give you something decent for Griffey.
    That's the problem. The Yankees don't have anything decent. You can't give up 100 RBI's unless you get a real good return. The Yankees are not going to do that.
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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan
    That's the problem. The Yankees don't have anything decent. You can't give up 100 RBI's unless you get a real good return. The Yankees are not going to do that.
    100 RBI if he stays healthy. If he doesn't move out of CF it will be a lot tougher to reach that milestone.
    And the Yanks do have a few pieces to deal. But not anything that would help right now.

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    Re: 2-7 last nine, 5-10 last 15 games - why?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan
    That's the problem. The Yankees don't have anything decent. You can't give up 100 RBI's unless you get a real good return. The Yankees are not going to do that.
    This statement is just not true. It used to be, but not anymore...

    Eric Duncan, Philip Hughes especially, Jose Tabata(go look at this 17 year olds numbers in the SAL.. ), Austin Jackson, CJ Henry.. and this after graduating Wang and Cano. I tell you one thing, its certainly a lot better than our putrid farm system.
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