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    Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    This was the question posed on Baseball Tonight last night. The expert chosen to handle this question? None other than the king of objective analysis himself, Joe Morgan. Joe proceeded to talk about the usual culprits, pressure of playing in New York, etc., etc.

    But my issue is less with Morgan's response to the question, which was nothing if not predictable, than with the question itself. It's nothing short of lazy journalism because they have taken the leap that the concept of A-Rod always struggling in the "clutch" is a fact. The ironic thing about it is that the evidence to either support or refute this "fact" is available on their own web site, none of which was cited during the discussion! From espn.com:

    From 2003-05, in close-and-late situations, Rodriguez has hit 15 HR with 48 RBI and 43 runs scored in 228 ABs and a line of .276/.392/.553/.945. In other words, pretty much in line with his overall career stats. Extrapolate his numbers out to an entire "season" of 600 close-and-late ABs and the man would have 166 H, 113 R, 39 HR and 126 RBI.

    Now I'm no particular fan of A-Rod but this just strikes me as another case of ESPN's laziness, as well as the tendency for media and fans to pick on a team's best player because he has the audacity to be anything less than perfect. (Not an invitation for another pro/con Dunn thread, please. )

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    I've always loved A-Rod and I hope he smashes every record in the books. He just gets picked on a lot because there is a lot of talk about him being the best baseball player ever, and people expect him to be some kind of Hercules.
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    A lot of it has to do with the loud complaints of unrealistic fans in NY and the fact that he hit a HR when the Yanks were down 8-0 last night against the Reds Sox. Guess it would have been better if he'd grounded out.
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed
    It's nothing short of lazy journalism
    I think this says it all. If "clutch" indeed exists, then A-Rod is not non-clutch.
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    One of the biggest problems is how Ortiz seems to come up with the big hit and ARod does not. Then it is magnified 500 times b/c of the NY factor. But since I see a lot of NY games out here, I have to say it is a legitimate point and one that definitely exists.

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    He got the big game winner tonight, and Ortiz had a chance and didn't. But since I'm a Red Sox fan, the myth of A-Rod's unclutchness is fun for me. I just think the NY media is savage and he made the mistake of showing that he cares how he's portrayed, so they're feeding off him like the vultures they are. And ESPN just picks it up and starts picking over the carcass themselves, because they're no better.

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    I did look at the numbers and Arod's 3 year OPS splits with RISP are about .100 less than his overall OPS. (but still in th .830 range)
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    I did look at the numbers and Arod's 3 year OPS splits with RISP are about .100 less than his overall OPS. (but still in th .830 range)
    But the "late and close" stat is, I believe, where he struggles.

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed
    this just strikes me as another case of ESPN's laziness
    My 13 year old son watches ESPN constantly and I think he believes everything he hears, despite my constantly admonishing him that much of the commentary on ESPN is garbage.
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    must be because he sucks
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    But the "late and close" stat is, I believe, where he struggles.
    Does he?

    2002-2005 Close and Late: .392 OBP, .553 SLG- .945 OPS

    He also allegedly "struggles" against Boston...

    2002-2005 vs. Boston: .408 OBP, .514 SLG- .922 OPS

    And in the playoffs...

    Career Playoffs: .393 OBP, .534 SLG- .927 OPS

    And in three LCS: .413 OBP, .611 SLG- 1.024 OPS

    In reference to A-Rod's performance, the only things that struggle are oblivious Yankees fans and media luddites looking for the next dumb thing to say.
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsBaron
    My 13 year old son watches ESPN constantly and I think he believes everything he hears, despite my constantly admonishing him that much of the commentary on ESPN is garbage.
    Just tell him that if he continues to do that, he'll go blind.

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Obviously he's not playing the game "The right way"

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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    I think this is just another tactic to play on the Yank/New York people's anxiety about not being in the World Series for the past two years. *gasp* And not winning it since... *louder gasp*
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    Re: Why does A-Rod struggle in clutch situations?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD
    Does he?

    2002-2005 Close and Late: .392 OBP, .553 SLG- .945 OPS

    He also allegedly "struggles" against Boston...

    2002-2005 vs. Boston: .408 OBP, .514 SLG- .922 OPS

    And in the playoffs...

    Career Playoffs: .393 OBP, .534 SLG- .927 OPS

    And in three LCS: .413 OBP, .611 SLG- 1.024 OPS

    In reference to A-Rod's performance, the only things that struggle are oblivious Yankees fans and media luddites looking for the next dumb thing to say.
    I was obviously wrong there. Just from watching Yankee games b/c of where I live I have to say ARod definitely struggles in the big game/AB. It has happened many times and he actually has admitted to it. I even believe Torre has addressed it in the papers. The papers were all giddy b/c of his HR last night, but if the bullpen didn't get lit up his HR would have been less meaningful. I can;t look up the stats b/c I am at work, but what are his career playoff stats since he got to NY, including power numbers? I think they might be worse.


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