That may be, but I can tell you there are other sports forums more welcoming than RedsZone. To each is own, I guess. Also, there is a difference between cliques and community spirit. In the former, posters are evaluated on the substance of their posts and whether or not they "measure up" in some way, so to speak, determines whether they join that clique or not. I don't know that it's a matter of whether one gets along with a clique or not. I believe it to be more a matter of whether you are ever a part of the clique in the first place. Think back to workplace issues In a community-oriented forum, there isn't as much value placed on 'value' of posts or post-count, but rather on one another looking out for each other. The former is more competitive in nature (kind of your sports bar), the latter more about good times.