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    Re: Reds acquire Yan

    Quote Originally Posted by CougarQuest
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    Thanks to that whole "Acevedo is front-of-the-rotation quality, or I'll eat my hat" debacle from back in the day.
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    Re: Reds acquire Yan

    Yan can't be much worse than White. Maybe Krivsky has caught lightening in a bottle once again.
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    I'm trying to find something positive from his stats..........well,at least I guess he throws hard. If you even consider that positive.

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    "That wouldn't make any sense, as he has been on optional assignment already this year. If he was on optional assignment in April, he must have an optional year left (obviously)."

    This is correct. He HAS to have options, because we've used one this season.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Well, it's another project. Didn't cost us anything significant. It's worth a try, I suppose, even though my expectations are low.

    Glad to see Wayne working the system and trying though. DanO would be in the middle of his mid-summer snooze by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman4
    I'm trying to find something positive from his stats..........well,at least I guess he throws hard. If you even consider that positive.
    Well if you take away his two horrible outings in which he gave up 10 runs (and, of course, that can't be dismissed), he's an acceptable 3.48 ERA with 14 K's in 18.1 innings (the two bad outings were 1 inning and 3 innings respetively).

    Interestingly, all of his 13 appearances this year were in Angels losses.

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    Glad to see Wayne working the system and trying though. DanO would be in the middle of his mid-summer snooze by now.
    I think this is a great point. DanO would have done nothing other than get on TV and blather about god knows what.

    The Kriv would be silly to instigate a complete fire-sale now. I'm not saying he wouldn't pull off a big more or two but a complete "burn it down" is completely un-warrented. IMO, until this point, he's wanted to see how things will shake out before moving any big names. By default, that means his moves are going to be less earth-shattering in their nature. Yes, we'll have to take some chances along the way, but that is the nature of building a team. Not every move can be a blockbuster.

    The key is, however, that he's been consistantly making moves, allbiet small ones, since he's been here. It's obvious that he's moving forward and has a goal in mind in terms of the team he'd like to build. Will Marc Lancasters predictions hold and we'll see a flury of moves today/tomorow. It's possible. I'm just glad that he isn't standing around like a deer in the headlights as has been the case in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz
    Well if you take away his two horrible outings in which he gave up 10 runs (and, of course, that can't be dismissed), he's an acceptable 3.48 ERA with 14 K's in 18.1 innings (the two bad outings were 1 inning and 3 innings respetively).

    Interestingly, all of his 13 appearances this year were in Angels losses.
    I knew someone would be able to make lemonade out of those sour lemons. Good job redsmetz

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    take away the bad outings of a pitcher and his numbers look rather good at that point. The bad outings are part of who Yan is as a pitcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    take away the bad outings of a pitcher and his numbers look rather good at that point. The bad outings are part of who Yan is as a pitcher.
    I made that clear in my original post and I concur completely. Consistancy is imperative. I'm just saying that he has shown he's capable of pitching well. Will some new scenery allow him to do that consistantly? I have no idea. One minor pickup isn't going to right this ship at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz
    I made that clear in my original post and I concur completely. Consistancy is imperative. I'm just saying that he has shown he's capable of pitching well. Will some new scenery allow him to do that consistantly? I have no idea. One minor pickup isn't going to right this ship at the moment.
    I would suggest he's proven that at best he is an 11/12th man on a pitching staff and in no way will help solve the problems of this bullpen. Inconsistent is who he is. Could he get hot for a few weeks? Sure but eventually he will find his level which is known as "replacement".
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    Re: Reds acquire Yan

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie-a-go-go
    Thanks to that whole "Acevedo is front-of-the-rotation quality, or I'll eat my hat" debacle from back in the day.
    Yep, I lost mine in the whole Donnie Sadler 4-Eva crisis.
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    Esteban Yan's stats don't look too good, that's for sure. But neither did Brandon Phillips' when he came over and neither did (as some would agree with and some would disagree with) Bronson Arroyo's when he came over. I think Phillips and Arroyo have worked out pretty well so far.

    Wayne Krivsky has earned my trust in making moves so I will hold out a reasonalbe amount of hope for this move too. Another reason to like this deal is Krivsky doesn't seem to be above cutting his "own" guys if they don't work out.

    We shall see.
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    Re: Reds acquire Yan

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    CHICAGO -- The postgame atmosphere in the Reds' clubhouse was awfully tense. Those guys know at least one move has to be made tomorrow, and Rick White and Brian Shackelford in particular didn't do themselves any favors tonight.

    Bob Castellini was at the game, having flown in this afternoon, and he did not look real pleased when John Fay and I encountered him walking through the stands on our way to the clubhouse. Also, Wayne Krivsky was reportedly on the phone to Jerry Narron shortly after the game ended.

    All that said, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there are multiple moves made Wednesday. I don't think it'll measure up to the San Juan massacre of April '03, which saw the legendary Jimmy Anderson and Josias Manzanillo DFA'd and Brandon Larson optioned out, but it just feels like something bigger than simply optioning out Shackelford, for instance, needs to be done.

    I guess we'll see tomorrow.

    In the meantime, some good news for one of the blog's favorite guys. The Mets have signed Jacob Cruz to a minor league deal and sent him to extended spring training. I'm sure he'll be joining Dave Williams in Norfolk before too long.

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    Re: Reds acquire Yan

    I think this is one of those moves that can incrementally improve the bullpen. Not a big splash, but if he's better than the previous 11th/12th guy, then we've gotten a smidge better. And low risk.

    Keep on doing small moves like this, Kriv may be able to boost the bullpen performance 10-25% which isn't a bad thing.

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