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    Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Per Lance's blog.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    So we still have White and his what could be his twin brother in Yan. Great!
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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    i thought i read that shackleford didn't have any options

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    The first of hopefully many moves over the coming weeks and months to shore up this disaster of a 'pen.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Rats!

    They evidently think that White needs more time to adjust and improve now that he's not making the trip down from Springfield every day.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by captainmorgan07
    i thought i read that shackleford didn't have any options
    that's how he got to AAA after ST. The option is good for the entire year.

    BTW, there was no chance White was going to be the odd man out and I said that last night. I don't think the FO has confidence than Yan is actually better than White so they are in a wait and see mode and can bring in Yan and not actually lose replacement level White.
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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    with mercker off the dl yes i kno white is very bad but 3 lefties is one two many especially the way hammond's been pitching

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    that's how he got to AAA after ST. The option is good for the entire year.

    BTW, there was no chance White was going to be the odd man out and I said that last night. I don't think the FO has confidence than Yan is actually better than White so they are in a wait and see mode and can bring in Yan and not actually lose replacement level White.
    Likewise from a financial standpoint, if you have two pitchers who are equally weak, do you really jettison the one who you're going to have to pay or the one who is probably on a split contract (and has the options)?

    That's not to say White might not get the boot some other time, but right now, this one was a no-brainer.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by captainmorgan07
    with mercker off the dl yes i kno white is very bad but 3 lefties is one two many especially the way hammond's been pitching
    Mercker and Hammond have not been very effective this year against lefties at all. Shack has been pretty strong in that capacity.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Great, I guess Mercker's latest performances made Shack expendable. So, now who do you bring into get a tough lefty out? Not walk, or give up a homerun to, but out?
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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckWoody
    Mercker and Hammond have not been very effective this year against lefties at all. Shack has been pretty strong in that capacity.
    although a point others have made is that the Reds really don't have enough quality relievers to make proper use of a LOOGY.
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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckWoody
    Mercker and Hammond have not been very effective this year against lefties at all. Shack has been pretty strong in that capacity.
    Very true. White is an absolute disaster and he brings nothing to the table. Shack can get lefties out and White can get no one out. The bullpen just got a lot worse.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    so im assuming reading marcs blog that this is the only move for today

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Sending Shackelford down is a start but we still have Rick White on the roster. Plus Mercker has been horrible since coming off the DL so the Reds still have a long way to go.

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    Re: Shackelford optioned to AAA

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    although a point others have made is that the Reds really don't have enough quality relievers to make proper use of a LOOGY.
    I smell what you're cookin'.

    Just for grins, here are the splits on all the guys in question here:

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    Shackelford
    SPLIT      AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS  BAA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
    vs. Left   21  3  0  1  0   2  2   1  5  0  0 .143 .250 .238  .488 
    vs. Right  18  8  0  0  3   6  4   0  3  0  0 .444 .545 .944 1.490
    
    Mercker
    SPLIT      AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS  BAA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
    vs. Left   21  8  3  0  3  6   2  0   4  0  0 .381 .435 .952 1.387 
    vs. Right  22  5  2  0  1  5   5  0   4  0  0 .227 .357 .455  .812
    
    Hammond
    SPLIT      AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS  BAA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
    vs. Left   26  8  0  0  2  5   0  0   5  0  0 .308 .308 .538 .846 
    vs. Right  37  9  2  0  0  1   3  0  11  0  0 .243 .300 .297 .597
    
    White
    SPLIT      AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS  BAA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
    vs. Left   27  8  2  1  2  7   0  0   6  0  0 .296 .296 .667 .963 
    vs. Right  61 23  3  0  2 14   3  1   8  1  0 .377 .409 .525 .934
    
    Yan
    SPLIT      AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS  BAA  OBP  SLG  OPS 
    vs. Left   32 11  2  0  3 15   9  0   6  1  1 .344 .476 .688 1.164 
    vs. Right  50  8  3  0  1  6   4  1  10  1  0 .160 .236 .280  .516
    Shack was definitley having a good year against the lefties and there is no way we want the game on the line with Esteban facing a lefty. Maybe he can be a ROOGY.


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