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    Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    3 games out of first with a 3 game series against the division leaders coming up. Pujols is out for a little bit. (probably the whole series) Without Pujols the only lefty threat in their lineup is Edmonds and he's not in the best shape either. There is always Rolen from the other side since we've got Claussen and Milton going the first 2 games, but I think we've got a decent chance of leaving St. Louis with a share of the lead.

    BTW, when they return home Arroyo faces Glendon Rusch again! Is another homer possible? :ughmamoru

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by WebScorpion
    3 games out of first with a 3 game series against the division leaders coming up. Pujols is out for a little bit. (probably the whole series)
    Pujols will miss the entire series along with at least the next few weeks. Having said that, I don't think the Reds will win this series. The Cardinals just lost a huge part of their line-up, but a LaRussa managed team always finds a way to win. Losing Pujols may inspire them. It isn't like when the Cubs lost Lee.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Simply put...how things can change in a week.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
    Pujols will miss the entire series along with at least the next few weeks. Having said that, I don't think the Reds will win this series. The Cardinals just lost a huge part of their line-up, but a LaRussa managed team always finds a way to win. Losing Pujols may inspire them. It isn't like when the Cubs lost Lee.
    To that lineup, it is very much like when the Cubs lost Lee, except this is probably for less time. Without Pujols in the lineup, I think runs are going to be hard to come by for the Cards.
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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    The main difference betwen previous Cards teasm winning with injuries, and this team, is starting pitching.

    in the last few years, the Cards could throw a out a good starter every day, and give upusually, 3 runs or less. It's easy to win, even with a lesser lineup, when you're getting that type of starting pitching.

    This year's cards aren't getting that type of starting. Mulder, marquis and Suppan are all pitching pretty poorly thses days. Ponson is, well, Ponson. And carpenter is coming back from an injury, and hasn't dialed it up like last year.

    If the Card's offense goes into snooze mode without Pujols, thet'll have trouble maintaining their current pace unless the starting pitching improves greatly over what they have done to date.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    The Cubs didn't have a Rolen or an Edmonds when they lost Lee.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig
    If the Card's offense goes into snooze mode without Pujols, thet'll have trouble maintaining their current pace unless the starting pitching improves greatly over what they have done to date.

    I agree 100% with your post, but I doubt the offense goes into snooze mode.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Let's hope the team doesn't have the same attitude as some on here. The Cardinals have had hugely successful seasons the last several years for reasons other than just Albert Pujols. Underestimate them and the Reds could find themselves heading back to CIN on the wrong end of a sweep.
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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
    The Cubs didn't have a Rolen or an Edmonds when they lost Lee.
    While the Cards are less a one man show on offense than the Cubs, with Ramirez being their other major threat, they are not that far ahead. It has been pretty obvious that Pujols has been carrying the Cards offense in the first part of the year and losing his production for two weeks is likely to cause big problems. While it is true that there may be a short term emotional "we gotta pick it up" in this upcoming series, if he's gone for a DL stint, that may be long enough to expose the lack of depth in the lineup.
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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    While the Cards are less a one man show on offense than the Cubs, with Ramirez being their other major threat, they are not that far ahead. It has been pretty obvious that Pujols has been carrying the Cards offense in the first part of the year and losing his production for two weeks is likely to cause big problems. While it is true that there may be a short term emotional "we gotta pick it up" in this upcoming series, if he's gone for a DL stint, that may be long enough to expose the lack of depth in the lineup.
    We need to keep track of the Cardinals record without Pujols, because I think they will still win without him. I don't disagree that Pujols has provided most of the offense for the Cards up to this point in the season, because he has. I just think that the rest of the line-up will produce more now because they need to. Also... losing Pujols gives Edmonds a chance to play again.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    It has been pretty obvious that Pujols has been carrying the Cards offense in the first part of the year and losing his production for two weeks is likely to cause big problems.
    Losing Pujols for only two weeks would actually be good news to Cards fans. Unfortunately, he will be out longer than two weeks.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Hey, I like what Edmonds for Pujols does for the Reds chances. I hope he is not out longer, but I had this sinking feeling that his record setting pace was going to be interrupted by an injury at some point.
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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    Hey, I like what Edmonds for Pujols does for the Reds chances. I hope he is not out longer, but I had this sinking feeling that his record setting pace was going to be interrupted by an injury at some point.
    The Cubs are 12-27 since losing Lee. The Cards will have a winning record while Pujols is gone.

    This is actually the first time Pujols has ever been on the DL.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    I don't think Pujols being out will automatically give us the series. Its evened out by entering the Milton/Claussen part of our rotation. They have a habit of making lots of guys hit like Pujols.

    If he's out a long time then obviously thats going to affect the Cards. No one has a team that is so deep it doesn't feel the effect of losing a Pujols and an Edmonds being far less than 100% for an extended stretch of games.

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    Re: Baseball Gods smile on Reds again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
    The Cubs are 12-27 since losing Lee. The Cards will have a winning record while Pujols is gone.

    This is actually the first time Pujols has ever been on the DL.
    Fine, but injuries have a way of styming all-time great seasons in this game. That is what the clairvoyance was based on.

    As for you ability to prognosticate, feel free to post the record at the end of the stint.
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