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    Adam Dunn or _________?

    I know that a lot of the conversation (both good and bad) on this board circulates around Adam Dunn. I wanted to get a feel for how strongly some of us feel about Adam Dunn with a little game I call Adam Dunn or _____? The premise is simple... would you rather have Adam Dunn or ____? I've not done any statistical analysis or high-level mathematics. Do such calculations if you wish. I've compiled a list of OF/1B of similar age (under 30) and at least 1000 Major League AB's.

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    Player (age)
    Miguel Cabrera (23)
    Grady Sizemore (24)
    Mark Teixeira (26)
    Jason Bay (27)
    Kevin Mench (28)
    Carlos Lee (29)
    Pat Burrell (29)
    Lyle Overbay (29)
    Carlos Beltran (29)
    Vernon Wells (29)
    Alfonso Soriano (29)

    I do not intend this to be a Dunn-bash... just want to see how objective some of us are.
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Maybe Miguel Cabrera, but none of the others.
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Cabrera, yes.
    Teixeira, maybe. It is pretty much a wash.
    Bay, yes.
    Everyone else, no.

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    Miguel Cabrera and Vernon Wells and Jason Bay others sorry no
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatiRedGals
    Miguel Cabrera and Vernon Wells and Jason Bay others sorry no
    Vernon Wells? Seriously?

    Dunn career OPS is 80 points higher than Wells.

    As for the list, only Miguel Cabrera is better than Dunn, IMO. Bay is pretty darn close too.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Vernon Wells? Seriously?
    Vernon Wells can D up.
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Cabrera, Sizemore, Bay for me.

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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Right now, I'd want Alfonso Soriano, hands down. He's Mr. Eveerything at the moment.

    Now, if we're talking "careers" instead of simply picking the flavor of the month, I would probably go with either Teixeira or Cabrera, and take a long, hard look at Bay. Beyond that, I'm sticking with Dunn.
    Last edited by registerthis; 06-05-2006 at 09:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Vernon Wells? Seriously?

    Dunn career OPS is 80 points higher than Wells.

    As for the list, only Miguel Cabrera is better than Dunn, IMO. Bay is pretty darn close too.
    Dunn-Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    2004 CIN 161 568 105 151 34 0 46 102 108 195 6 1 .266 .388 .569 .956
    2005 CIN 160 543 107 134 35 2 40 101 114 168 4 2 .247 .387 .540 .927
    2006 CIN 55 191 42 45 11 0 17 32 46 63 1 0 .236 .383 .560 .944
    Career 716 2462 462 609 138 6 175 406 508 796 42 16 .247 .383 .522 .905

    Wells-Batting
    Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    2004 TOR 134 536 82 146 34 2 23 67 51 83 9 2 .272 .337 .472 .809
    2005 TOR 156 620 78 167 30 3 28 97 47 86 8 3 .269 .320 .463 .783
    2006 TOR 52 210 32 68 10 2 15 44 18 27 5 3 .324 .376 .605 .981
    Career 719 2838 419 816 170 16 124 439 194 394 41 14 .288 .334 .490 .824
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

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    Dunn-Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 
    2004 CIN 161 568 105 151 34 0 46 102 108 195 6 1 .266 .388 .569 .956 
    2005 CIN 160 543 107 134 35 2 40 101 114 168 4 2 .247 .387 .540 .927 
    2006 CIN 55 191 42 45 11 0 17 32 46 63 1 0 .236 .383 .560 .944 
    Career 716 2462 462 609 138 6 175 406 508 796 42 16 .247 .383 .522 .905
    
    Wells-Batting
    Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 
    2004 TOR 134 536 82 146 34 2 23 67 51 83 9 2 .272 .337 .472 .809 
    2005 TOR 156 620 78 167 30 3 28 97 47 86 8 3 .269 .320 .463 .783 
    2006 TOR 52 210 32 68 10 2 15 44 18 27 5 3 .324 .376 .605 .981 
    Career 719 2838 419 816 170 16 124 439 194 394 41 14 .288 .334 .490 .824
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatiRedGals
    Dunn-Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    2004 CIN 161 568 105 151 34 0 46 102 108 195 6 1 .266 .388 .569 .956
    2005 CIN 160 543 107 134 35 2 40 101 114 168 4 2 .247 .387 .540 .927
    2006 CIN 55 191 42 45 11 0 17 32 46 63 1 0 .236 .383 .560 .944
    Career 716 2462 462 609 138 6 175 406 508 796 42 16 .247 .383 .522 .905

    Wells-Batting
    Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    2004 TOR 134 536 82 146 34 2 23 67 51 83 9 2 .272 .337 .472 .809
    2005 TOR 156 620 78 167 30 3 28 97 47 86 8 3 .269 .320 .463 .783
    2006 TOR 52 210 32 68 10 2 15 44 18 27 5 3 .324 .376 .605 .981
    Career 719 2838 419 816 170 16 124 439 194 394 41 14 .288 .334 .490 .824
    What's that supposed to prove?

    Dunn has a higher OPS over the last three years compared to Wells.

    Wells .809, .783, .981

    Dunn .957, .927, .943
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    What's that supposed to prove?

    Dunn has a higher OPS over the last three years compared to Wells.

    Wells .809, .783, .981

    Dunn .957, .927, .943
    Whoa there, big fella. No need to get all defensive. She just posted stats so everyone can compare for themselves. (*whispers* There are stats other than OPS, ya know.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Whoa there, big fella. No need to get all defensive. She just posted stats so everyone can compare for themselves. (*whispers* There are stats other than OPS, ya know.)
    I think he was trying to point out that Vernon had a higher BA and less strikeouts. To which I say, who cares?

    Nati, I didn't mean for that last post to sound sharp. I'm just curious to what your point was in that post.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Whoa there, big fella. No need to get all defensive. She just posted stats so everyone can compare for themselves.
    FYI- Nati is a "he".
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    Re: Adam Dunn or _________?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    FYI- Nati is a "he".
    Oh snaps... my apologies.
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