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    Unappreciated Players

    Throughout baseball history there have been players who contributed significantly to a teams success, but yet were lightning rods for fan complaints. Seemingly no matter what they did it was always "this guy is horrible at ABC" or "he stinks because he doesn't do XYZ".

    Simularly, there have been players who quietly produced day in and day out. Year after year they played a valuable role on their team, and significantly helped that team win more games. They were passed over for all-star consideration, weren't fan favorites and were never considered for HOF voting.

    So my question is, excluding our two favorite lightening rods in Cincinnati (because I'm sick of reading never-ending arguments over them) who are some of the players in baseball history that (1) Never could do enough and got nothing but complaints or (2) Were steady, solid ball players with great carears but never just made in into the "star" level ????


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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Three current players who I am aware get a lot complaints from fans of their team are Andruw Jones (low BA, too many K's), Bobby Abreu (too many K's, too many BB's), Jim Edmunds (too many K's, low BA)

    I think I'd take that as an OF.
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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    Three current players who I am aware get a lot complaints from fans of their team are Andruw Jones (low BA, too many K's), Bobby Abreu (too many K's, too many BB's), Jim Edmunds (too many K's, low BA)

    I think I'd take that as an OF.
    I think those three are perenial All-Stars.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    It's amazing to me that Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio got a hard time from their fans, to the point that Williams went Danny Graves on the Boston fans. Dave Winfield got his share of grief. And some guys were just scowling personalities who made it harder on themselves, like Richie Allen and Eddie Murrary.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner
    I think those three are perenial All-Stars.
    I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.
    They are by quite a few of their team's fans. Go to a Philly message board and they are ripping Abreu.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    It's not anything new. A team's best player will always get a little more heat than the rest of the team on any small flaw.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner
    I think those three are perenial All-Stars.

    That is true, so maybe it doesn't meet the strict definition from the original post, but none the less I have heard a lot of grumbling about those three from fans of each team. What I believe that illustrates is that when you are an active fan of a particular team and you have to watch guys fail 65% of the time (which they all do) it sometime causes you to not appreciate what a guy brings to the team while fans not so close to the situation will look at a guys stats and say "hey, he's pretty good"
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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.

    I think you'd be surprised.
    School's out. What did you expect?

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    underapreciated player joe crede for the white sox solid defensive thirdbasemen ronnie belliard in cleveland doesn't get enough credit eric byrnes of arizona all this man does is make great plays in the outfield or atleast he used to he constantly hustles all over the place

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Braves fans - nuff ced.

    Philly fans - ditto

    Cards fans - I'm surprised by their ripping of Edmonds.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Three current players-
    Austin Kearns
    Morgan Ensberg
    Michael Barrett

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Braves fans - nuff ced.

    Philly fans - ditto

    Cards fans - I'm surprised by their ripping of Edmonds.
    Braves fans are famously misinformed. I know, I lived there for 10 years.

    Classic Braves fan quote " boy that Deion sure is fast! What do they call that.. a triple?"
    Last edited by pedro; 06-07-2006 at 05:10 PM.
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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    Rafael Palmeiro
    John Olerud
    Jack Clark

    and...

    Ryan P. Freel
    Thank goodness for baseball.

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    Re: Unappreciated Players

    I'm just going to throw this out there and I might get drilled for it, but one way to be underaprreciated is to not be on a winning team.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.


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