was apparently hit hard again tonight. One inning, two runs, three hits.
I really wonder what is going on here. Have the Reds tested Wagner for injury? Have they considered shutting him down for awhile? Is he working with a special instructor? Has he just lost it?
I hope the organization has seriously focused on this. He showed great promise earlier in his career.
Remember he was shut down last season because of ineffectiveness and questions about his shoulder. Nothing was done to it except a strengthening program. I agree Kc61, I suspect labrum troubles.
Hugs, smiling, and interactive Twitter accounts, don't mean winning baseball. Until this community understands that we are cursed to relive the madness.
Wagner's outing might not have been quite as bad as the line looks. The first hitter he faced bunted his very first pitch for a base hit. Then he gave up a double to a .340 hitter. From there, it went sac fly, putout, K.
Then he was yanked after giving up a leadoff single. Mike Venafro came in and let the runner on first score, so he was charged with the second run.
I'm not trying to be a Wagner apologist, but before this game he'd made some tentative steps towards improvement, cutting his ERA from the 8 range down to the low sixes.
His ERA is at 6.49 after tonight's game.
Meanwhile Michalak went 6 IP and gave up 0 ER (3 un-earned). His ERA is at 3.27.
Originally Posted by Scooter
If Wagner would improve a trade offer to another team then I hope Krivo throws him in, kid needs a fresh start somewhere else.
Go Gators!
I am not speaking as an expert, but I always thought Wagner lacked confidence. It seemed to me, he lost it way too easily - he was a pitcher who, when he fell apart, he would fall apart hard.
A million dollar arm, attached to a 10 cent brain (not sure who said that, but this seems the case)
I've always gotten that impression too from him, both at Louisville and in Cincy. He also seems like a guy who speeds up when he's in trouble, which is a bad thing IMO.
Crash Davis, Bull Durham...
He seems to throw his slider 90% of the time and never can locate it. Very frustrating to watch.
Doesn't he have any heat? I thought he threw 95+ in college.
Oh well. I think he needs a change of scenery in an new organization. I think he still has the chance to make it somewhere.
With that said, is it true that the Angels gave up on both Bobby Jenks and Derrick Turnbow?
OUCH!
Call up Ryans college coach and see if he could help him.
Its worth a shot since it doesnt look like anyone else has figured out whats wrong with him.
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