According to the article below on Reds.com, Milton has really developed his changeup in the past few weeks...and it shows!!!Originally Posted by redsfan30
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=cin
According to the article below on Reds.com, Milton has really developed his changeup in the past few weeks...and it shows!!!Originally Posted by redsfan30
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=cin
Throughout the last few years, I've noticed that Cardinals players often compliment players on the other team after a losing game. I think it's the right thing to do, and it shows sportsmanship. If you think the opposing pitcher had a great game, then admit it. Don't say that he was lucky, or that it was only because you had a bad game. I've noticed the opposite from Astros players. They never seem to give credit to their opponent. When they lose a game, they seem to say that it was because they had a bad day, or they didn't do something right. Sometimes, the opposing pitcher is just too good for you. It may be tough to admit, but it shows good sportsmanship if you can admit it.Originally Posted by jimbo
Originally Posted by redsmetz
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Ok, I haven't really followed him this year. I was just trying to throw out some names of high profile free agent pitchers this fall. Maybe Mulder is a bad example then.Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed
IMO, the best way to attract a free agent starter is to keep Milton (if Milton is doing well). No one is going to want to come to Cincy just to be trade bait the following year.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
I know Milton pitched a great game yesterday, but don't you really have to give a lot of credit to David Ross? I mean if batters are being constantly kept off balance by getting pitches they're not expecting it's the catcher who should get the kudos.
You make an excellent point. Catchers often do not get the credit they deserve when their pitchers are successful. From what I've seen, I really like how Ross handles this staff.Originally Posted by Maldez
Milton has pitched well with the other catchers too.
"Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn
Jimmy Haynes says, "Howdy!"Originally Posted by registerthis
It is always better to trade a player too soon than too late. Milton may just make it through the season with a 4.50-ish ERA, but it is certainly not a sure thing. In fact, it is more likely that he ends the year with an ERA close to 5.00. As he sits with his ERA currently at 4.14, that means that he is due for some stinkers coming up soon. I certainly don't want those stinkers thrown while in a Reds uniform from a competetive standpoint. Those stinkers will torpedo any hope of trading him, too.
He certainly does, and the Reds say "D'Oh" for re-sgining him after his 15 win year. I didn't say Milton was, forever more, going to be a productive pitcher--only that there would be a market for him if he finished with the numbers I posted. And there would be.Originally Posted by Red Heeler
Milton has been an effective pitcher in the past, it's entirely possible that he could finish somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-10, 4.50. And if his ERA balloons like it did last year, there's a good chance the Reds will have fallen out of contention. It's better to trade early than late--of course. But it's also good to know when a trade would benefit your club, and when it could dismantle it. The Reds need every starter performing at top levels to be competitive for the remainder of the year. If Milton's producing and the Reds are winning, you don't trade him. Perhaps in the offseason, but not then.It is always better to trade a player too soon than too late. Milton may just make it through the season with a 4.50-ish ERA, but it is certainly not a sure thing. In fact, it is more likely that he ends the year with an ERA close to 5.00. As he sits with his ERA currently at 4.14, that means that he is due for some stinkers coming up soon.
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
Nothing is a sure thing. It is not a sure thing that he will close out the year with an ERA of close to 5.00. It isn't like he has pitched one gem amongst several shellings. Throw out the game where he got rocked by Florida and it was found he was injured and the Detroit game, which was basically a rehab start, and he has been superb. He is a completely different pitcher when compared to last season.Originally Posted by Red Heeler
Of course he is going to throw a few stinkers, who doesn't? Pedro pitched one just last night (and no, I'm not comparing Milton to Pedro). The difference between last year and this is that last season he threw them pretty much every 5 days. With the addition of his changeup and the strength he now has in his legs, I don't see that happening this season.
I mentioned this in the game thread last night. His follow-thru this season is different, or so it seems to me. You can tell he is throwing with more strength in his legs by the way he is kicking that left leg during his follow-thru.
2007 at almost 10 million.Originally Posted by reds44
I wouldn't take that chance
Go Gators!
trade hiim by the deadline if we're not in contention.Originally Posted by KronoRed
Trade him in the offseason if we are.
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
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