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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    trade hiim by the deadline if we're not in contention.

    Trade him in the offseason if we are.
    BINGO!


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    Milton V. 2.0

    Goodness this might be the single biggest bonehead thing I have ever typed on Redszone or any other message board, but I have this thing about trying to be optimistic. I know it sounds crazy but we might actually end up seeing the very best of Eric Milton. As bad as he was last year I gotta believe he can do no worse for starters.

    Here is my thinking on this subject, just here me out before you come to the conclusion that I have lost it (this is assuming that you ever thought I had it to begin with).

    The Facts:
    A.) He has mainly always relied on his FB 1st & foremost.
    Career ERA coming into '05 was 4.51

    B.) He always pitched in the A.L. until '04

    C.) Still has a workable FB, but now has begun to become more of a pitcher. Mixing up w/ a curve, slider & now an improved Change-up. And moving the ball around the zone a bit more.

    D.) In the offseason moved from the 3rd base side of the rubber to the 1st base, per Browning this was to give him a better angle to get further inside on RH batters.

    E.) Has finally cleaned up a knee that has been a major issue.

    Guys he has dang near re-invented himself. Assuming we can find ways to keep his knee from getting weary at times, we might have a "New" Eric Milton. He's gonna still be a flyball pitcher because he throws a 4 seamer but if he can keep guys off-balance with that change-up and continue to get inside with that FB-Slider combo he could cut dow those longballs dramatically. He isn't a guy who walks alot of guys, so I could actually see a 3.50 era by the end of the season.

    Sure he is gonna have his days but if he throws another game or 2 like the 3 he has in a row now his confidence is gonna soar big time. Put all these things together he could have a career year. Of course it all depends on the leg(s) of his!

    You don't have to agree but see how well he does from here on out. A good sign if his knee is bothering him is his velocity will be usually top out around 88-89. If his velocity in any game stays @ 90-91 and his command is there for at least 2 pitches I don't see him giving up more than 3-4 runs. By this criteria we should be able to determine whether he's better, typical or a worse Version of Eric Milton!

    Oh BTW you deal him if you can get a solid long-term return or an impact immediate player, who knows how long that knee holds up!

    Disclaimer:
    I'm cautiously stating this with just a small sample size here.
    Last edited by Mario-Rijo; 06-07-2006 at 08:34 PM.
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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    He costs too much to trade, even if performing well. If he pitches good this year, and at the start of next season, we should be able to shop him at the end of the deadline.

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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    ...remember this, if he doesn't learn to pitch down in the zone, he's going to get killed. That is why Aaron Harang has been so good this year and most of last season. Milton doesn't have the stuff, it will catch up to him.

    trade him at all costs.

    again, I hope I'm wrong, but I've never watched a guy with his type of stuff, pitch up in zone and have success. It just doesn't happen too often. As the summer heats up, you have to think his ERA will as well.
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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    bump up down memory lane

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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    I'll wait to hear a good hitter say this at any time. Molina is a hole in the Cards lineup, it doesn't cut it for me to be a solid baseball thought.

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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    The Cardinals are adept at spreading ingenuous information. Larussa claimed that dave Williams was one of the best pitchers in the league.

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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Milton has been solid, and so has Elizardo.
    Who knew?
    Ooops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Yadier Molina quote.......

    I think we might need a "RedsZones Reruns" forum

    It would be nice if the board could somehow flag a thread coming back from the grave.
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