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    Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    How about this for a July trading deadline deal especially if both teams are in contention:

    Reds trading OF Adam Dunn to the Tigers for RHP Jeremy Bonderman.

    Tigers: It would be difficult for them to part with Bonderman especially with Maroth's shoulder being a question mark and the Tigers' strength being their starting pitching. BUT, the Tigers are looking for a lefthanded DH who can play LF too. Dunn fills that requirement and has the power to hit it out of any ballpark.

    Reds: Don't think Krivsky will buy that the starting pitching is rock solid. Claussen has become an enigma and the jury is still out if Ramirez can be a solid starting pitcher over the longhaul. Bonderman gives the Reds another solid starter. Pitching and defense is what wins in the playoffs. Losing Dunn hurts offensively or does it? It has been well documented on this site about Dunn's ability to hit with the game on the line. The Reds have options with Freel and possibly Denorifia as replacements. If Krivsky didn't have a problem parting with dimensional power hitting outfielder in Pena for a starting pitcher, who is to say he wouldn't do the same involving Dunn?

    So would a Dunn for Bonderman deal make sense for both sides?
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Why does everyone talk about Bonderman like he's a great pitcher? I hear it all the time and don't understand it at all. He's not, never has been, and likely never will be. We're talking about a guy who has a career ERA of 4.9 and a WHIP of 1.37. I know he's still young, but he's nothing more than a #3 or #4. And he's a Tommy John waiting to happen with all the innings he's thrown at such a young age.

    I was thinking that the Tigers might be the perfect candidate for Eric Milton. With Maroth out and Detroit fans crazy to make it happen this season, they that might be a good fit for him, especially in that park. I'd settle for one of their middle relievers.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Bad deal for the Reds. Bonderman is a B-level starter at best. Dunn is A-level offensive talent, for reasons that have been explained on this board countless times.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Bad deal for the Reds. Bonderman is a B-level starter at best. Dunn is A-level offensive talent, for reasons that have been explained on this board countless times.
    I don't think Dunn is A-level offensive talent. Guys like Junior and Pujols are A-level talent.

    Would you trade Dunn in a three-way deal with the Marlins in order to get LHP Dontrelle Willis? If you swing Dunn to Detroit for prospects that the Marlins would agree to, would you be happy with Willis?
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    As much as I hate to say it MWM, now that it doesn't seem that budget is as big a deal for the Reds I don't want them to trade Milton. I know he's not great but they really don't have anyone better.

    As for the deal posed? Krusty I don't like it and I don't think the Tigers will trade a SP during the season anyway.

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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    As much as I hate to say it MWM, now that it doesn't seem that budget is as big a deal for the Reds I don't want them to trade Milton. I know he's not great but they really don't have anyone better.

    As for the deal posed? Krusty I don't like it and I don't think the Tigers will trade a SP during the season anyway.

    My dreams these days revolve arond a 15 game Giant losing streak and a trade for Jason Schmidt and Kearns is the one I'm trading to get that done.
    Next to Junior, I think Kearns has been the most productive hitter on the team.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    I have made my living on this site throwing out trade proposals just to chew on. If they came true, I would be working for the Reds.

    You throw out the trade proposal to see maybe the Reds would trade a player like Dunn to acquire a pitcher for the stretch run.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    Next to Junior, I think Kearns has been the most productive hitter on the team.
    and a much bettter all around player than dunn. id trade dunn for as much pitching as i could get

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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    Next to Junior, I think Kearns has been the most productive hitter on the team.
    yeah, but his value is pretty high now, I don't know if it will stay there as he's been pretty volotile value wise over his career. It might just be time for the Reds to cash out and Jason Schmidt makes this team a contender IMO. Kearns AB's go to Denofria and Freel.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by NewEraReds
    and a much bettter all around player than dunn. id trade dunn for as much pitching as i could get
    But Dunn is consistently healthy and produces at a high level every year. As good as Kearns has been, he was nearly a wash out as recently as last year. I think the Reds shoudl gamble on the sure thing and that is Dunn IMO.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    I don't think Dunn is A-level offensive talent. Guys like Junior and Pujols are A-level talent.
    Like I said, we've been over this countless times. I do think he's A-level talent. Pujols is A-plus.

    Would you trade Dunn in a three-way deal with the Marlins in order to get LHP Dontrelle Willis? If you swing Dunn to Detroit for prospects that the Marlins would agree to, would you be happy with Willis?
    I'd be happier with Willis than with Bonderman, but I'd be happiest with Dunn still on the team.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    I would see if the Reds could swing Dunn to the Angels for prospects (they need a DH) and flip those prospects to Florida for LHP Dontrelle Willis.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Trading Dunn would send a bad sign, just like trading JR would.
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    Re: Reds--Tigers Trade Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    I would see if the Reds could swing Dunn to the Angels for prospects (they need a DH) and flip those prospects to Florida for LHP Dontrelle Willis.

    How about targeting some Angels pitchers? They're out of it.
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