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    Re: All-Star, home field likely to stay linked

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted
    I think so, too. It's likely that all of the ancillary events that accompany the game require lots of convention and hotel space. Seems to me like MLB could reserve those spaces for the following year in both an AL city and an NL city, and then cancel one set of those next-year reservations the day after the game.

    The uncertainty will be inconvenient for sponsors and annoy the convention and visitors' bureau folks, which is probably the biggest reason it will never happen.
    They do award the All-Star games several years in advance but there's no reason that they couldn't pick both AL and NL cities each year, as you said.

    As for the inconvience, cities handle WS crowds that are longer lasting events and that are sometimes not determined until a day or three before the event.

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    Re: All-Star, home field likely to stay linked

    It's not an exhibition game if home field advantage in the World Series is riding on it. I still say that all it's going to take is one seven-game WS where the home team takes home the trophy and ASG managers are going to start playing to win in the ASG (unlike, say, Bobby Cox).
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    Re: All-Star, home field likely to stay linked

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    It's not an exhibition game if home field advantage in the World Series is riding on it. I still say that all it's going to take is one seven-game WS where the home team takes home the trophy and ASG managers are going to start playing to win in the ASG (unlike, say, Bobby Cox).
    The PLAYERS would have to feel that link, too. But maybe 20% of the ASG roster (Yankees, Cards, Red Sox, Astros, Chisox players) probably feel they have a legit chance at the WS and with 80 or so games left in the season, even they have to be a little skittish about going "all out" for an "advantage" that isn't that easy to quantify (for them).

    If it comes down to "what's more important", the remainder of the season or the HF advantage in the WS (which more likely than not isn't even going to be for you), the second half is going to win (and it should). I can really see a Devil Ray player going all out so Joe Torre can have HF.

    Before there was some "league pride" attached. Players would play and stay in their respective leagues for their entire careers. This was an opportunity to "mingle" with the "best" of the "other" unknown side. Show 'em who' best, so to say.
    No longer the case, with the way players move and interleague play.

    My opinion...it's an exhibition (heck, the HR derby gets the most attention these days), treat it as such...give out some goodwill and prizes and if it ends in a tie...so be it.
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    Re: All-Star, home field likely to stay linked

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper
    The PLAYERS would have to feel that link, too. But maybe 20% of the ASG roster (Yankees, Cards, Red Sox, Astros, Chisox players) probably feel they have a legit chance at the WS and with 80 or so games left in the season, even they have to be a little skittish about going "all out" for an "advantage" that isn't that easy to quantify (for them).

    If it comes down to "what's more important", the remainder of the season or the HF advantage in the WS (which more likely than not isn't even going to be for you), the second half is going to win (and it should). I can really see a Devil Ray player going all out so Joe Torre can have HF.

    Before there was some "league pride" attached. Players would play and stay in their respective leagues for their entire careers. This was an opportunity to "mingle" with the "best" of the "other" unknown side. Show 'em who' best, so to say.
    No longer the case, with the way players move and interleague play.

    My opinion...it's an exhibition (heck, the HR derby gets the most attention these days), treat it as such...give out some goodwill and prizes and if it ends in a tie...so be it.
    Fair points, but WS homefield advantage is there for the taking and it's not an insignificant prize. Over time managers who value that prize (and I'm guessing Ozzie Guillen will fit this profile) will stop treating the game like a Little League contest where everybody plays. The guys who are just glad to be there can watch from the bench because the better teams in the league will have more players on the squad and their attitude toward the game willl change.
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    Re: All-Star, home field likely to stay linked

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    It's not an exhibition game if home field advantage in the World Series is riding on it. I still say that all it's going to take is one seven-game WS where the home team takes home the trophy and ASG managers are going to start playing to win in the ASG (unlike, say, Bobby Cox).
    Exactly.

    I don't like Bud's decision in this instance; but the players (and their union) have snubbed their collective noses at this game (and the fans who vote them in) for the last decade or so.

    When I hear players say they aren't gonna appear because they don't want to risk injury (a contract year and all), or that it may wear them down and prevent them from helping their team in the 2nd half, then something needed (and needs) to be done to correct this attitude.

    And to pay a player extra if they make the All-Star game? It should be a privilege, not an incentive to try and perform better.

    It may be just an exhibition game to the fans, but it never used to be to the players of the respective leagues.

    I think they should just level heavy fines on these players (based on a percentage of their base salary).... plus give them all the bad press they deserve.

    And maybe the next year you're not eligible as punishment.

    Snub us? Snub you!

    If the players don't like Bud's decision, then maybe THEY should do something about the game to correct the attitude so many of them carry?
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